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·Good afternoon OF chums
Time to let this bird fly - it's a really nice Seiko 6138-8020 "Panda", on a nearly-new Seiko/Stelux bracelet that was custom fitted. Unlike most of the Pandas on eBay, the dial is almost perfect - and not fake (check out @Speedmasterfan88's list of telltales on https://omegaforums.net/threads/seiko-6138-8020-panda-arrived-update.60487/#post-753479).
- the dial has a few very slight speckle marks (eg at around the 10 o'clock marker) when viewed under strong magnification, but otherwise it's nearly perfect
- the bracelet - sold by Stefan aka schillachi61 on eBay - is really good quality. Solid Stelux with the correct clasp, it's had the end links modified to fit the Panda case. I've worn it sparingly so it's mostly unmarked and comes with extra links to make it full-length.
- The case is in really good shape - it looks like it may have had a light refinish in the past, but the facets are all still there, and there are no dents or major scratches or gouges.
- Everything works: service history is unknown but it winds manually and via the auto mech, date change is crisp, chrono starts, stops and resets well. I've worn it for a couple of days now and it hasn't gained or lost significant amounts. As ever, I'm sure a service would do it good - I could arrange that if the buyer wants to wait a few weeks, and add ~£250 to the cost.
- dates to August 1977 - Seiko 6138B 21-jewel automatic chronograph movement. The day wheel is English and Roman.
I'm looking for a very reasonable £1,100 including delivery in the UK (overseas delivery can be negotiated with the buyer). I've bought mostly, with a few sales, on OF in the past. References available on request.
I'm selling because I have acquired another Panda which is even nicer, though it's in greater need of service so I figured it would be preferable to part with this one. Whatever, when you see what garbage changes hands on eBay for more than I'm asking for this one...
More pics follow... in a couple of them, the crystal had some scuffs that I only noticed when looking at the photos; a couple of minutes with Polywatch and they've gone now. In the direct sunlight photos, anything obvious you can see on the dial is shadows from the crystal.
(using a black plastic sheet to cast a shadow on the case back...)
The Tell-tales of a genuine vs fake
I'll also add a very obvious one - the A's in JAPAN should have a flat top rather than a pointed tip.
Time to let this bird fly - it's a really nice Seiko 6138-8020 "Panda", on a nearly-new Seiko/Stelux bracelet that was custom fitted. Unlike most of the Pandas on eBay, the dial is almost perfect - and not fake (check out @Speedmasterfan88's list of telltales on https://omegaforums.net/threads/seiko-6138-8020-panda-arrived-update.60487/#post-753479).
- the dial has a few very slight speckle marks (eg at around the 10 o'clock marker) when viewed under strong magnification, but otherwise it's nearly perfect
- the bracelet - sold by Stefan aka schillachi61 on eBay - is really good quality. Solid Stelux with the correct clasp, it's had the end links modified to fit the Panda case. I've worn it sparingly so it's mostly unmarked and comes with extra links to make it full-length.
- The case is in really good shape - it looks like it may have had a light refinish in the past, but the facets are all still there, and there are no dents or major scratches or gouges.
- Everything works: service history is unknown but it winds manually and via the auto mech, date change is crisp, chrono starts, stops and resets well. I've worn it for a couple of days now and it hasn't gained or lost significant amounts. As ever, I'm sure a service would do it good - I could arrange that if the buyer wants to wait a few weeks, and add ~£250 to the cost.
- dates to August 1977 - Seiko 6138B 21-jewel automatic chronograph movement. The day wheel is English and Roman.
I'm looking for a very reasonable £1,100 including delivery in the UK (overseas delivery can be negotiated with the buyer). I've bought mostly, with a few sales, on OF in the past. References available on request.
I'm selling because I have acquired another Panda which is even nicer, though it's in greater need of service so I figured it would be preferable to part with this one. Whatever, when you see what garbage changes hands on eBay for more than I'm asking for this one...
More pics follow... in a couple of them, the crystal had some scuffs that I only noticed when looking at the photos; a couple of minutes with Polywatch and they've gone now. In the direct sunlight photos, anything obvious you can see on the dial is shadows from the crystal.
(using a black plastic sheet to cast a shadow on the case back...)
The Tell-tales of a genuine vs fake
(from here):
1. The O in the AML Seiko Logo is always oval and lays on its side.
2. The "Chronograph Automatic" Text and the Seiko Logo are centered on the left side, draw an imaginative vertical line from the S to the C and A ( think like MOY-Test on some of the connys).
3. the Date surround is silver and the insides of the cutout are painted as well (on most of the aftermarket ones it's just a stamp through the metal).
4. color of the date disk should be an off white, not a bright one.
5. there should be tritium Spots on all hour markers.
6. the hour markers have black (not sure if onyx) stripes on top of them (there is some controversy about that).
7. Concerning the Hands, those should be straight, syringe and not tapering down to the front. The subdial hands should have a visible metal "disks" in the middle where they are mounted. Chrono second hand is square base with orange tip (can be faded heavily, I've seen almost white ones).
8. The dial it self should have a vertical linen pattern.
The subdials do not have concentric circles! If they do, that's a dead giveaway for an aftermarket dial!
I'll also add a very obvious one - the A's in JAPAN should have a flat top rather than a pointed tip.
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