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In the coin world that would be called a "condition rarity".

Not a rare watch, but very rare in that condition.
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That's just fantastic...that's how sharp the lugs really are !!! That movement almost blinded me it was so clean.
 
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In the coin world that would be called a "condition rarity".

Not a rare watch, but very rare in that condition.
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When you have a vintage omega that is both a "condition rarity" an "absolute rarity" and one in high demand then you have a true grail.
 
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When you have a vintage omega that is both a "condition rarity" an "absolute rarity" and one in high demand then you have a true grail.

I want to see people's grails now!..we need a grail thread...either ones they already own, or in the future....
 
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I want to see people's grails now!

Already own mine. In both the vintage Ω and modern dress watch categories come to think of it. Took me 5 years of pining for the dress watch to be sure, and one single flip of the Ω to realize my mistake. The only other watch that comes close to the desire I had for either is a Breguet like a 5197BB.
 
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I want to see people's grails now!..we need a grail thread...either ones they already own, or in the future....

The term grail watch is very overused in my opinion. I think there are very few true grails around as far as the world of vintage omega is concerned and the collectors that have them typically tend to keep these pieces "secluded."
 
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The term grail watch is very overused in my opinion. I think there are very few true grails around as far as the world of vintage omega is concerned and the collectors that have them typically tend to keep these pieces "secluded."
Yes grails should only be certain rare specific watches where there is a community consensus . Not , in my opinion a watch that is desired by an individual and then so designated. Don't care for the term personal grail, to me it belittles the term.
 
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Yes grails should only be certain rare specific watches where there is a community consensus . Not , in my opinion a watch that is desired by an individual and then so designated. Don't care for the term personal grail, to me it belittles the term.

IMO, by the nature of the term, all grails are personal. I may not like what you like and you may not like what I like.

Just because a particular reference is techincally rare (that is, very few made or still exisiting), doesn't mean that either you or I would do almost anything to get one.
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Just because a particular reference is techincally rare (that is, very few made or still exisiting), doesn't mean that either you or I would do almost anything to get one.

Or maybe it does.

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IMO, by the nature of the term, all grails are personal. I may not like what you like and you may not like what I like.

Just because a particular reference is techincally rare (that is, very few made or still exisiting), doesn't mean that either you or I would do almost anything to get one.
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I agree with your thoughts Evan, just don't like the terminology. It gets confusing when there have be certain watches that have been proclaimed "Universal" (nothing to do with UG folks) Grails or "The Grail" by defacto authorities, VS personal grails.
Probably nothing can be done about this, so I will just accept it.
 
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Or maybe it does.

I think your style is more like this...


It gets confusing when there have be certain watches that have been proclaimed "Universal" (nothing to do with UG folks) Grails or "The Grail" by defacto authorities.

I don't know who those "authorities" are, but just they say it, doesn't make it my grail. No reason to be confused.

Buy what you like and like what you buy.
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I agree.. A grail (I borrowed the term from the forum..) is to me something personal, not something that is rare in terms of more desirable. I personally call pieces in my "to buy list" Grails because they are the pinnacle of what I desire at any given time (which can differ daily..) It's the case IMO when a collector brings something "unseen" or "rare" to the table because its never been on the forum or hasn't been in the general consensus before...people tend to think that's a watch that they should own, because its been owned once by someone who was "influential" or deemed experienced by the forum...
 
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In the coin world that would be called a "condition rarity".

Not a rare watch, but very rare in that condition.
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Kind of like a 1980s Hyundai that still runs
 
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That's just fantastic...that's how sharp the lugs really are !!! That movement almost blinded me it was so clean.

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After all that is how every watch should look like, when displayed by retailers, many years ago - whether it is an Omega, Rolex or Patek Philippe. It was a common sight but a rarity, today. Not all watchmakers are factory-trained to polish a watch, unfortunately. The end-result is disaster to an otherwise beautiful work of commercial art, from Switzerland.

Most of the vintage-watches we see of today, is only a glimpse of their past glory. Very seldom do we come across a watch with an unmolested case or an unmolested dial.

Thank-you.
 
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I don't know who those "authorities" are, but just they say it, doesn't make it my grail. No reason to be confused.



Buy what you like and like what you buy.


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I guess your right. A grail is only the object of a quest. All grails are only personal. The grail can have no other meaning. No watch is any more special than any other, there is only what I like.
 
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No watch is any more special than any other, there is only what I like.

Unless you reach Chuck Maddox status. Then you get to dictate one, and only one, grail.
 
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Unless you reach Chuck Maddox status. Then you get to dictate one, and only one, grail.
Hey, just because he said it , doesn't make it so.
 
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Unless you reach Chuck Maddox status. Then you get to dictate one, and only one, grail.

May Chuck RIP, but even he admitted that it was his personal grail, and not everyone else's.
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May Chuck RIP, but even he admitted that it was his personal grail, and not everyone else's.
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Well, there you go again, (as both Dennis and Ronald Regan would say) confusing us with facts. 😜