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·I recently acquired one of these and it led to me spending several hours scouring Google to piece together all the info and known examples I could find with this dial type.
The info below is what I’ve managed to piece together thus far...
Models
I’ve identified 15 examples with this dial type so far. This included;
9 Seamaster 600’s (ref 135.011),
5 Seamaster 30’s (135.007),
1 Geneve (135.011 same ref as the Seamaster 600).
Dials
As can be seen from the picture below, the dials have the following attributes;
Matte black body,
Painted white Omega logo,
White Arabic hour numerals,
Rail track minute track,
T Swiss Made T at 6 o’clock,
Applied tritium lume at each hour marker, hash marks at 3, 6 and 9, a hash with two dots at 12 and single dots at the remaining markers.
The dials are constant whether it’s a 600, 30 or Geneve. The only difference being the white text denoting the model at 6 o’clock.
Movements
All movements appear to be manual and without date. I haven’t found a single example of this dial with the date feature.
Seamaster 30 - cal 286. Serial range appears to be 20,77xxxx (2 examples) and 21,35xxxx (3 examples).
Seamaster 600 and Geneve - cal 601. Serial range appears to be 22,07xxxx (5 examples) and 26,1xxxxx (2 examples). I was unable to identify the serial number of 2 examples.
Hands
There are two distinct hand types associated with these dials. Stick and baton (with Speedmaster style seconds hand); both of which are lumed. There doesn’t appear to be any association with serial numbers to identify a change over point between the two as both types are seen on across serial ranges.
I can say that the baton type seems to appear later (and then run concurrently with the stick type) as I observed no baton hands on the earlier Seamaster 30’s.
Stick hands. Credit: timerediscovered.com
Baton Hands. Credit: @Nla91
Caseback
Interestingly a significant number of these appear to have names and numbers engraved on the caseback. Out of the 15 examples I’ve found, 9 had a name and number engraved. Of the 6 that did not, 2 had caseback a that appeared to have been polished to remove an engraving.
Credit: vintagewatchspecialist.com
Credit: corevintagewatches.com
If you’ve made it this far, thanks for reading. I’m intrigued by these dials as 1) they’re quite uncommon, 2) they’re great looking, and 3) I wonder if they were some kind of special order due to the apparent tight serial ranges and the fact that so many appear to have engraved casebacks with some kind of ID number. I’ll shortly apply for an extract for mine to see if the delivery location and notes shed any light.
In the meantime I’d love to hear others opinions on these watches. Do you agree with my findings or have any corrections or additions?
I’d also be really keen to identify other examples out there that are hiding in peoples collections. I believe @Nla91 has one? If you’ve got one in your collection please post some pics below along with any info you have in the watch and it’s history. Even better, I’d like to document serial numbers and caseback engravings (even partial if you’d prefer not to reveal the entire number) so feel free to pm me if you’re comfortable with that.
I would say that I’d like to try and keep this thread specific to this exact dial type. There is a similar thread for the technical dial Seamaster 600’s/Geneves.
I’ve included above some photos from dealers websites and added credit where appropriate. If anyone has any objections to me using their photos, let me know.
Finally, beware when considering purchasing watches with these dials. The black colour and style are ripe for redialers, so make sure you’re looking at an original dial.
The info below is what I’ve managed to piece together thus far...
Models
I’ve identified 15 examples with this dial type so far. This included;
9 Seamaster 600’s (ref 135.011),
5 Seamaster 30’s (135.007),
1 Geneve (135.011 same ref as the Seamaster 600).
Dials
As can be seen from the picture below, the dials have the following attributes;
Matte black body,
Painted white Omega logo,
White Arabic hour numerals,
Rail track minute track,
T Swiss Made T at 6 o’clock,
Applied tritium lume at each hour marker, hash marks at 3, 6 and 9, a hash with two dots at 12 and single dots at the remaining markers.
The dials are constant whether it’s a 600, 30 or Geneve. The only difference being the white text denoting the model at 6 o’clock.
Movements
All movements appear to be manual and without date. I haven’t found a single example of this dial with the date feature.
Seamaster 30 - cal 286. Serial range appears to be 20,77xxxx (2 examples) and 21,35xxxx (3 examples).
Seamaster 600 and Geneve - cal 601. Serial range appears to be 22,07xxxx (5 examples) and 26,1xxxxx (2 examples). I was unable to identify the serial number of 2 examples.
Hands
There are two distinct hand types associated with these dials. Stick and baton (with Speedmaster style seconds hand); both of which are lumed. There doesn’t appear to be any association with serial numbers to identify a change over point between the two as both types are seen on across serial ranges.
I can say that the baton type seems to appear later (and then run concurrently with the stick type) as I observed no baton hands on the earlier Seamaster 30’s.
Stick hands. Credit: timerediscovered.com
Baton Hands. Credit: @Nla91
Caseback
Interestingly a significant number of these appear to have names and numbers engraved on the caseback. Out of the 15 examples I’ve found, 9 had a name and number engraved. Of the 6 that did not, 2 had caseback a that appeared to have been polished to remove an engraving.
Credit: vintagewatchspecialist.com
Credit: corevintagewatches.com
If you’ve made it this far, thanks for reading. I’m intrigued by these dials as 1) they’re quite uncommon, 2) they’re great looking, and 3) I wonder if they were some kind of special order due to the apparent tight serial ranges and the fact that so many appear to have engraved casebacks with some kind of ID number. I’ll shortly apply for an extract for mine to see if the delivery location and notes shed any light.
In the meantime I’d love to hear others opinions on these watches. Do you agree with my findings or have any corrections or additions?
I’d also be really keen to identify other examples out there that are hiding in peoples collections. I believe @Nla91 has one? If you’ve got one in your collection please post some pics below along with any info you have in the watch and it’s history. Even better, I’d like to document serial numbers and caseback engravings (even partial if you’d prefer not to reveal the entire number) so feel free to pm me if you’re comfortable with that.
I would say that I’d like to try and keep this thread specific to this exact dial type. There is a similar thread for the technical dial Seamaster 600’s/Geneves.
I’ve included above some photos from dealers websites and added credit where appropriate. If anyone has any objections to me using their photos, let me know.
Finally, beware when considering purchasing watches with these dials. The black colour and style are ripe for redialers, so make sure you’re looking at an original dial.
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