Seamaster 300 ref. 2913-5 from 1958

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Hello everyone! First post on any online forum ever.
I started this quest on the “Omega Only” group on Facebook, after trying to figure out the story behind my watch, previous to me.

I talked to a good friend who is a watch expert like few others, went to four watchmakers and an Omega AD, who have confirmed it: the watch is legit!


I have also discovered from the serial number (1633xx) that my watch is from 1958 and that it is a 2913-5 SC reference. I’m trying to figure out the HF engraving in the back, as well as if it’s a Gerald Genta case (I’ve been told there’s a way to tell even), if it’s from military issue etc.


Obviously, the movement is fried, the case is awesome, the bezel, although missing the insert, is strong, the crown still screws off the case, and the serial is clearly visible in the movement.


I want to keep it and to restore it, may it take months or years. But it depends on the finances tied to it.


If the costs surpass the value of the watch by a lot, it would make more sense to sell it to someone who can take care of it.

If the watch is worth way more than the repairs (which by going by the lowest possible end of ballpark the watchmakers gave me, is the case), I’d much rather keep it and have my mind at ease regarding costs.


I have been inundated with offers and messages, spamming to the thousands, but still have no good idea on what what I have is worth. Finding other 2913-5 SC from 1958 is proving to be quite difficult, so I’m very curious.


I put it on a brown nato to match the dial and I’m in love. I don’t want to touch it one bit.
I thank you very much in advance and hope to get insights from this forum I heard so much about.
 
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I doubt this is economically viable to fix. I’ve no idea where you’d find a dial, you’d need to keep the same movement (or at least the same serial number) so that an omega extract makes sense, and the bezel would end up with a repro insert. So you’d have spent a lot to end up with something that’d be a heavily restored watch. 2913 prices were much stronger a few years back IMO.
 
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Hello and welcome to the Forum!
A very interesting watch and maybe an interesting project, to follow to it's end.
How did the watch find it's way to you? Any senimental value behind your question?
 
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I doubt this is economically viable to fix. I’ve no idea where you’d find a dial, you’d need to keep the same movement (or at least the same serial number) so that an omega extract makes sense, and the bezel would end up with a repro insert. So you’d have spent a lot to end up with something that’d be a heavily restored watch. 2913 prices were much stronger a few years back IMO.
FYI: I want to keep this dial and hands, I want it to look exactly as it does right now but perfectly mechanically functional. And I don’t want an insert! I love this look!
 
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Hello and welcome to the Forum!
A very interesting watch and maybe an interesting project, to follow to it's end.
How did the watch find it's way to you? Any senimental value behind your question?
 
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Hey there! I flew my partner to Paris for dinner on her birthday. We were walking around town and saw a tiny old furniture / memorabilia store. The gentleman said he couldn’t sell anything except sunglasses since he was selling the store as is and they weren’t catalogued yet. I didn’t see any watches but asked anyway.
He came back with a box. Most of the watches were in plastic bags and the price was still in francs. I was shuffling through them and saw a very old looking watch, to which I recognized the hour hand and 3-6-9 configuration. I called up my buddy who is a watch expert and he told me it was legit. He said his price, I bought it for stupid cheap. Went to omega and four of the best watchmakers France has to offer and they all said it: it’s legit. I’ll treasure this weekend and this memory forever!
 
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FYI: I want to keep this dial and hands, I want it to look exactly as it does right now but perfectly mechanically functional. And I don’t want an insert! I love this look!
So when you say restore it, you mean just give it a clean and fix the movement ?

Should be possible for under €500. Value after would be about the same as the value now.
 
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So when you say restore it, you mean just give it a clean and fix the movement ?

Should be possible for under €500. Value after would be about the same as the value now.
Precisely!
 
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Hey there! I flew my partner to Paris for dinner on her birthday. We were walking around town and saw a tiny old furniture / memorabilia store. The gentleman said he couldn’t sell anything except sunglasses since he was selling the store as is and they weren’t catalogued yet. I didn’t see any watches but asked anyway.
He came back with a box. Most of the watches were in plastic bags and the price was still in francs. I was shuffling through them and saw a very old looking watch, to which I recognized the hour hand and 3-6-9 configuration. I called up my buddy who is a watch expert and he told me it was legit. He said his price, I bought it for stupid cheap. Went to omega and four of the best watchmakers France has to offer and they all said it: it’s legit. I’ll treasure this weekend and this memory forever!
This is a nice story and your first associated to this watch. Do as you please with it and enjoy it. You already have a connection to it.

Oh, and keep us updated and send more photos!
 
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It might be best getting a donor movement and sort of preserving the serial plate and not much else. I think with a new crystal and some cleaning / stabilization it could actually look kinda cool in a hyper-tropical way.
 
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This is a nice story and your first associated to this watch. Do as you please with it and enjoy it. You already have a connection to it.

Oh, and keep us updated and send more photos!
I shall! Very proud of it!
 
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It might be best getting a donor movement and sort of preserving the serial plate and not much else. I think with a new crystal and some cleaning / stabilization it could actually look kinda cool in a hyper-tropical way.
That’s exactly what I’m after!
 
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I wasn't aware G Genta had anything at all to do with the SM300, in fact I am pretty sure he didn't. Is it in fact the case he did?

ps did the seller catch this while fishing in the Seine I wonder. It's very very far gone!
 
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In-Seine find for sure

::rimshot::
Maybe, but the the case is in awesome shape!
 
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I wasn't aware G Genta had anything at all to do with the SM300, in fact I am pretty sure he didn't. Is it in fact the case he did?

ps did the seller catch this while fishing in the Seine I wonder. It's very very far gone!
I was surprised to hear his name indeed, gotta figure that out. And I don’t know, but the case is in such remarkable condition that I think it may have been oxidation only, because the caseback engravings are still more than visible
 
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I wasn't aware G Genta had anything at all to do with the SM300, in fact I am pretty sure he didn't. Is it in fact the case he did?

ps did the seller catch this while fishing in the Seine I wonder. It's very very far gone!
“In 1960 Genta received his first exclusive order for Omega. However, many people assumed that he didn't contract with Omega directly, but with Omega's suppliers. The result of this collaboration was the Omega Seamaster and the Omega Constellation for which Genta designed various cases and dials. The watch market lives from a certain humility, which is why Genta always focused on the product and never promoted it through its name. For this reason, many of the models designed by Genta were not attributed to him until later. ”

Quite surprised by this! https://www.watchmaster.com/en/journal/stories-en/gerald-genta-the-man-the-models-the-myth
 
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Cases generally stand up to a lot of environmental abuse as they’re stainless steel. They certainly do much better than everything else. I’ve got a fair few finds like this. As @Duracuir1 mentioned, you’ve already made a personal connection to the watch by the circumstances with which you bought it. This makes it a very appealing proposition to own, but it’s easy to have rose tinted glasses when thinking about how others see it. If you want to keep it, then for purchase price plus €500 you’ll have a very cool watch (and permanent reminder of that day).
 
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“In 1960 Genta received his first exclusive order for Omega. However, many people assumed that he didn't contract with Omega directly, but with Omega's suppliers. The result of this collaboration was the Omega Seamaster and the Omega Constellation for which Genta designed various cases and dials. The watch market lives from a certain humility, which is why Genta always focused on the product and never promoted it through its name. For this reason, many of the models designed by Genta were not attributed to him until later. ”

Quite surprised by this! https://www.watchmaster.com/en/journal/stories-en/gerald-genta-the-man-the-models-the-myth
Genta certainly did some iconic Omega designs but nothing there, or anywhere else I have noticed says he designed the SM300.
 
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Genta certainly did some iconic Omega designs but nothing there, or anywhere else I have noticed says he designed the SM300.
The result of this collaboration was the Omega Seamaster and the Omega Constellation for which Genta designed various cases and dials.