Seamaster 300 165.024 fake spotting & reality check

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Hello all,

I'm pretty sure this watch is fake, or at least a Franken watch but thought I'd post here to see if anyone was able to confirm or deny my suspicions.
As I'm on the slow and arduous hunt for one of these I'm also trying to get better at identifying the 'tells' of a fake 300 of which there seem to be many... it's a mine field.

Anyway...

The watch is a 165.024 - 64 with a 1901XXXX serial and a cal. 550.

Reasons for suspicion:

I would have assumed that a serial in the 19 range would have placed it slightly too early for a 300

I also believe the 'Big Triangle' dial was only introduced in the late 60's (1966?)

I also have a feeling that the cal 550 was only used on the early Ck 14755 not the 165.024 but the Omega Data Base seems to refute that idea.

It could be a 67 bezel but it seems too bold and has a pointy number 4 which seems off.

It also doesn't have a screw down crown so the crown it does have should have the 'Naiad' symbol, which it doesn't.

Lastely, the case back is photographed in a way that the word 'certified' is obscured which is often a tell as fake 300s often have this word misspelled.

Did I miss anything or am I incorrect in my assumptions? Would love to hear what others think as spotting a fake vintage 300 is something I'd like to get better at.

Thanks in advance, and here's wishing you all a lovely evening,
Matt
 
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It's unclear from your reply if the watch you are linking is the one you are saying is completely fake (certainly looks like it) or the one that the OP is asking about.
 
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I would have assumed that a serial in the 19 range would have placed it slightly too early for a 300

LOOKS Like 2x.xxxx.xxx BUT: Why does he show only the last digits ????

I also believe the 'Big Triangle' dial was only introduced in the late 60's (1966?)

Yes

I also have a feeling that the cal 550 was only used on the early Ck 14755 not the 165.024 but the Omega Data Base seems to refute that idea.

NO

It could be a 67 bezel but it seems too bold and has a pointy number 4 which seems off.

bezel looks later or service

It also doesn't have a screw down crown so the crown it does have should have the 'Naiad' symbol, which it doesn't.

NO - IMO legit

Lastely, the case back is photographed in a way that the word 'certified' is obscured which is often a tell as fake 300s often have this word misspelled.

AFAICS OK

Did I miss anything or am I incorrect in my assumptions? Would love to hear what others think as spotting a fake vintage 300 is something I'd like to get better at.

A lume-shot is another check
 
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It's unclear from your reply if the watch you are linking is the one you are saying is completely fake (certainly looks like it) or the one that the OP is asking about.
They are both of the same kind- fakes. The movement is Omega made taken from donor watch and the rest is fake, faux patina added. Stay away.
 
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I reported this one after seeing this post and it has now been removed by eBay.

When you come across things of this sort please post them here:

https://omegaforums.net/threads/ple...-item-s-and-seller.7699/page-139#post-2338722
 
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what a horrible fake.
you see these very often on yahoo japan auction site as well.
 
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Vintage Sea300 is such a minefield these day with all the fakes and frankenstein
 
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Vintage Sea300 is such a minefield these day with all the fakes and frankenstein

That's why we're here! 👍
 
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Here how numbers from an original dial look like:
DSC_8391.png DSC_8392_red.png
tell us more....SN? date? kind of lume?
Mine are (slightly) different (big triangle 1968)!

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checked mit LEITZ 15x binocular loupe
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tell us more....SN? date? kind of lume?
Mine are (slightly) different (big triangle 1968)!

3b.jpg 6b.jpg

checked mit LEITZ 15x binocular loupe

It is a 165.024, serial 234759##
 
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I will share some dials I had chance to take pictures of:
165.024-64, sn 237948##
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165.024, sn 2347959##


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166.024-67, sn 269408##
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166.024-67, sn 275718##
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