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ConElPueblo
·Whatever happened to the other specimen, the one @Lucas said he has?
SAS Polarouter - Black Dial
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Lucas
·Please don't ask, I am not comfortable sharing online. Please understand. Of course this goes against the nature of the forum but you should have respect if people want to keep a watch to themselves! All I can say is that this dial exists and to me is legit.
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Tony C.
··Ωf Jury memberPlease don't ask, I am not comfortable sharing online. Please understand. Of course this goes against the nature of the forum but you should have respect if people want to keep a watch to themselves! All I can say is that this dial exists and to me is legit.
Of course it is your right to not post images, but surely you understand that any claim about its legitimacy will be treated with skepticism by most collectors as a result.
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ConElPueblo
·Sure I respect your decision. Now excuse me while I mentally delete your previous input.
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Diabolik
·Please don't ask, I am not comfortable sharing online. Please understand. Of course this goes against the nature of the forum but you should have respect if people want to keep a watch to themselves! All I can say is that this dial exists and to me is legit.
Lucas ,
You are right. Showing or not showing is most certainly your perogative. As far as your claim that it is genuine or legit, fair enough. In my eyes, as always, the proof is in the pudding.
Regarding the claims that they do exist and without photographic or other evidence and considering that there are no documented black dial SAS Polerouter or Polarouter variations in any of the reference documents I have come across including the UG bible, I remain skeptic and I will go as far as incredulous but look forward to casting my eyes on one of these extremely rare examples ...
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efauser
·I have a UFO parked in my backyard and its pilot is having tea with me. I won't compromise his privacy so you'll have to take my word for it.
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Mazoue
·I have a UFO parked in my backyard and its pilot is having tea with me. I won't compromise his privacy so you'll have to take my word for it.
Your point has already been made by @Tony C. and without him having to resort to sarcasm.
I suspect if we were all a little more encouraging and supportive then more people would be willing to contribute to the form and to share things.
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jumpingsecond
·@efauser did you recieve a bodily probing as well as is often reported in these cases ?😝
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BenBagbag
·I have a UFO parked in my backyard and its pilot is having tea with me. I won't compromise his privacy so you'll have to take my word for it.
Twice, at my request.
Do you have anything of substance to add to this conversation? Or just coming here to crap and leave? It's a bit tiring already...
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bgrisso
·My my, everyone seems a little touchy this morning...
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Do you have anything of substance to add to this conversation? Or just coming here to crap and leave? It's a bit tiring already...
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Mazoue
·Phillips in Geneva were able to help with the dial, for which I am extremely grateful.
They confirmed that the dial was made by Stern Freres for Universal Geneve and that "94" was the Stern Freres client code for UG. Detailed archives were only kept for special orders (e.g. cloisonné or enamel dials) and therefore the archives do not contain any further information about this dial. I am trying to establish the source of this information for the record.
I am hoping that the archives might still be able to indicate an approximate date of manufacturer based on the order number ("076" in this case). Anything later than 1954 would clearly be a problem.
No connection made yet with SAS but I feel like I'm heading in the right direction.
They confirmed that the dial was made by Stern Freres for Universal Geneve and that "94" was the Stern Freres client code for UG. Detailed archives were only kept for special orders (e.g. cloisonné or enamel dials) and therefore the archives do not contain any further information about this dial. I am trying to establish the source of this information for the record.
I am hoping that the archives might still be able to indicate an approximate date of manufacturer based on the order number ("076" in this case). Anything later than 1954 would clearly be a problem.
No connection made yet with SAS but I feel like I'm heading in the right direction.
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Nobel Prize
·I’m coming very late to this thread but it appears to me that if one wants to believe.... one believes.
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Mazoue
·Sala's book is of course about UG Chronographs.
Polarouters and Polerouters are covered and illustrated in the introductory section, "The History of the Brand", but there is no photograph of an SAS Polarouter, with a white or black dial.
Polarouters and Polerouters are covered and illustrated in the introductory section, "The History of the Brand", but there is no photograph of an SAS Polarouter, with a white or black dial.
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Diabolik
·You will not find a original black SAS anywhere ... The were not produced in black. You will find the gold (which are believed to have been given to heads of state)
and the off white ...
and the off white ...
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Mazoue
·You will find a original black SAS anywhere ... The were not produced in black. You will find the gold (which are believed to have been given to heads of state)
I appreciate that you don't believe they were made in black but you cannot say categorically that they were not produced in black.
Other than the fact that we've not yet seen another example and the fact that the printing of the SAS emblem admittedly does not appear to be quite as good as the above example, there is no reason to think that my example is not a genuine and original dial.
I have always been open-eyed about it and will continue to try to research it but I've not yet come across any reason to conclude that it is not genuine.
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