Rose Gold Connie with Champagne dial

Elias564 · Apr 21, 2020

I’ve never been attracted by gold watches and I should really enjoy some recent purchase before buying a new one, but I came across this rose gold Connie and remained impressed. At 2800 euros the price is more than I would like to spend right now and I’m not sure if it is fair, but it is hopefully negotiable. I wonder if I can ask for your opinion for this or for a similar future find. Also what do you think about the champagne dial? Would you rather go for one with a lighter contrasting color?
Thank you in advance for your opinion and for the valuable info I’m finding on the forum! I hope I can start making some more meaningful contribution soon!

Peemacgee · Apr 22, 2020

Hello @Elias564

This watch looks to be in stunning condition BUT I believe it has been refinished.
The case should have orbital graining on the front, not vertical graining as it does.
BTW the champagne dial you refer to is a solid gold linen dial, which is rather nice.
Also, it may just be the lighting in the pics but I’m not convinced it is rose gold as the rose gold on these references really stands out. (And is uncommon and desirable)
Have a look through the ‘c-case thread’ for the colour difference.
Hope that helps

NikoMartinez_SYD · Apr 22, 2020

That dial looks immaculate, almost NOS

Elias564 · Apr 22, 2020

Thank you!

nickgr · Apr 22, 2020

Shouldn't the bezel be rose gold as well, instead of silver;

Peemacgee · Apr 22, 2020

nickgr
Shouldn't the bezel be rose gold as well, instead of silver;

I thought that too when I first looked at the pics.
However, the indices and hands are also silver (or white gold as the advert says the bezel is), not the usual gold/onyx combination.
-and Omega did some strange gold/silver combinations with the C-cases and their bracelets, so it’s not unthinkable that this is one of their ‘experiments’.

nickgr · Apr 22, 2020

Peemacgee
I thought that too when I first looked at the pics.
However, the indices and hands are also silver (or white gold as the advert says the bezel is), not the usual gold/onyx combination.
-and Omega did some strange gold/silver combinations with the C-cases and their bracelets, so it’s not unthinkable that this is one of their ‘experiments’.

I didn’t know that Omega did such combinations with c cased Constellations. My first thought would be that this is a franken...

Elias564 · Apr 22, 2020

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nickgr
I didn’t know that Omega did such combinations with c cased Constellations. My first thought would be that this is a franken...

I did find some other watch on sale just like this one but not so many. I think however it's an interesting combination...it gives the illusion that the dial and the case are one single piece of gold to which the bezel and the markers are fixed.

Peemacgee · Apr 22, 2020

nickgr
I didn’t know that Omega did such combinations with c cased Constellations. My first thought would be that this is a franken...

not franken just ‘special’ (and you can interpret that anyway you like)

it’s either lockdown amnesia or senility but I’d forgotten there are threads on this reference to which I even contributed. 🤦

enjoy:
https://omegaforums.net/threads/omega-constellation-c-shape-ref-168-009-or-168-008.28067/

https://omegaforums.net/threads/omega-constellation-c-case-rare-or-franken.305/

its a very uncommon 168.008.
Very few (thankfully) appear.
the seller even tells us the reference in the detailed description but wrongly refers to a 168.009 in the title of his advert

omegastar · Apr 22, 2020

Did he forget to add the 4 grams of the gold dial to the net weight ?

Peemacgee · Apr 22, 2020

omegastar
Did he forget to add the 4 grams of the gold dial to the net weight ?

On the basis that they call it a ‘champagne dial’ it looks like they don’t know OM means solid gold dial.
Which is odd.

Vercingetorix · Apr 22, 2020

I wonder if that serial number is actually ground off and not photoshopped.....

Elias564 · Apr 22, 2020

At this point at least for the sake of curiosity I asked the seller to confirm which type of gold is the case made of, if the dial is solid gold or champagne (even tough this is clear already) and if the serial was effectively ground off the movement...I wonder if he reads OF 😀

@Peemacgee do you think they applied the vertical graining finish to the case because they lacked the right machinery to do an orbital one or the reason in this cases is normally a different one?

Peemacgee · Apr 22, 2020

Elias564
@Peemacgee do you think they applied the vertical graining finish to the case because they lacked the right machinery to do an orbital one or the reason in this cases is normally a different one?

It is anybody’s guess really, it could just be that their ‘go to guy’ didn’t know any better.

Elias564 · Apr 22, 2020

So, I already got a reply from the seller. He assures that the watch is in Rose Gold, he agrees the dial is solid gold as per the OM printed on the dial, but most surprisingly confirmed that the serial has been really ground off the movement...

Peemacgee · Apr 22, 2020

Elias564
but most surprisingly confirmed that the serial has been really ground off the movement...

in which case run away.
there are some ‘legitimate’ US Connies with serial numbers drilled out but this isn’t one of them.

Elias564 · Apr 22, 2020

Peemacgee
in which case run away.
there are some ‘legitimate’ US Connies with serial numbers drilled out but this isn’t one of them.

I will, thank you very much for the support!

Rose Gold Connie with Champagne dial

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