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·Here is another photo!
Rolex Submariner 5513-1966
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·I would have to study it more carefully, but that most recent dial looks a little strange to me, not just the lume, but the printing.
Yup- looking off
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Trog
·I spent many a year in search of a MF 5513. Finally, settled on this one (1.8m serial):
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Dan S
·If we are adding photos, this is my MF. Sorry the photo's a bit blurry, but it has the puffy zinc sulfide lume and a VI.66 case-back.
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·You learn a lot here. The 6's (660 ft) in the OPs second watch definitely look suspect, as does the SUBMARINER font.
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·Here more stuff..
The dial on the latest 5513 that I asked about compared with an image on a gilt gloss 5512 1966.
Look at the fonts etc!
Dont they look the same?
This is the dial on the 5513:
This is the dial on the 5512:
The dial on the latest 5513 that I asked about compared with an image on a gilt gloss 5512 1966.
Look at the fonts etc!
Dont they look the same?
This is the dial on the 5513:
This is the dial on the 5512:
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Linesiders
··Stripers, not snook.Folks - the second 5513 Meters First is GILT, not MATTE. The fonts look correct based on photo (Gloss has the U in lower alignment, Matte has the U in upper alignment). This is why the fonts look off when compared to a Matte MF dial.
Lousy photos confused the day again ; )
Lousy photos confused the day again ; )
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Dan S
·Folks - the second 5513 Meters First is GILT, not MATTE. The fonts look correct based on photo (Gloss has the U in lower alignment, Matte has the U in upper alignment). This is why the fonts look off when compared to a Matte MF dial.
Lousy photos confused the day again ; )
I definitely could not tell that it was a gilt-gloss dial based on the photos, but that makes total sense.
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Linesiders
··Stripers, not snook.I definitely could not tell that it was a gilt-gloss dial based on the photos, but that makes total sense.
On quick inspection they look the same, particularly if photo lacks crispness and depth. You get fooled enough looking at a Gilt that turns out to be Matte (and vice versa) you ask yourself everytime ; )
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·Well, I have learned a lot here with your help guys!
I think I have to hold the watch myself and not trust the pictures that I get, and not always trust the seller??
I think I have to hold the watch myself and not trust the pictures that I get, and not always trust the seller??
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·Guys...
Any thoughts/comments on the latest sub? The seller claims that the dial isn't a replacement..
Heres a copy of his answer:
yes, what you are saying is right at 1.6 million the gilt dials become matt, but here we are talking about the border between 1.5/1.6 where there may be mixed situations.
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Any thoughts/comments on the latest sub? The seller claims that the dial isn't a replacement..
Heres a copy of his answer:
yes, what you are saying is right at 1.6 million the gilt dials become matt, but here we are talking about the border between 1.5/1.6 where there may be mixed situations.
👍👎
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Linesiders
··Stripers, not snook.This watch has a fake insert (look at the 40s/50s), maybe fake bezel (looks cut wrong), what looks like a fake crown (tip too extended, too thick, bad rear crimp angle - I assume with no crimps) , next to a not confidence inspiring case lugs with odd cuts which - if not fake - is very badly refinished.
For me, there is a good chance the entire watch is fake. Sometimes bad photos make a real watch look fake, I do not think this is one of those times. I would not touch this with your credit card without other photos that reverse my thoughts.
Again - I could be wrong, but I don't think I am. I want to see photos of engravings, back of case, watch head straight on. Could be a movement shucked from a regular oyster and a lousy but legit dial and hands, placed in an aftermarket case. Or just lousy photos, but I would not touch it.
For me, there is a good chance the entire watch is fake. Sometimes bad photos make a real watch look fake, I do not think this is one of those times. I would not touch this with your credit card without other photos that reverse my thoughts.
Again - I could be wrong, but I don't think I am. I want to see photos of engravings, back of case, watch head straight on. Could be a movement shucked from a regular oyster and a lousy but legit dial and hands, placed in an aftermarket case. Or just lousy photos, but I would not touch it.
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hansaboy
·This watch has a fake insert (look at the 40s/50s), maybe fake bezel (looks cut wrong), what looks like a fake crown (tip too extended, too thick, bad rear crimp angle - I assume with no crimps) , next to a not confidence inspiring case lugs with odd cuts which - if not fake - is very badly refinished.
For me, there is a good chance the entire watch is fake. Sometimes bad photos make a real watch look fake, I do not think this is one of those times. I would not touch this with your credit card without other photos that reverse my thoughts.
Again - I could be wrong, but I don't think I am. I want to see photos of engravings, back of case, watch head straight on. Could be a movement shucked from a regular oyster and a lousy but legit dial and hands, placed in an aftermarket case. Or just lousy photos, but I would not touch it.
I do also think that the watch has a weird feeling, and the seller comes with dodgy answers to my questions - so the saying "buy the seller" is really spot-on!
I will keep on searching for a watch, and post updates here!
Take care!
Erhhmm... anybody got tips on a nice 5513 1966???
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Fallout Boy
·tuscany fresco-painting, my fist impression
did you look at the hands???
did you look at the hands???
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Linesiders
··Stripers, not snook.
Hard to tell based on lousy photos but they look OK. The whole thing could just be a bad photo, but I don't think so.
For quick
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I don t think it s the influence of the glass.....
Four digit Rolexes are a mine field....I decided to buy (as my next crown) a tritium EX 2 (w-series/90ies) so I can sleep well 😀
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Linesiders
··Stripers, not snook.That’s the thing with lousy photos; )
the sweep tip thins correctly and has right size counterweight and the H/M are missing some of the fake things
dial has up justified U and the M16 Front Sight Post A (IYKYK) so I think they ( dial and hands) are legit, just lousy photos to be more certain
the sweep tip thins correctly and has right size counterweight and the H/M are missing some of the fake things
dial has up justified U and the M16 Front Sight Post A (IYKYK) so I think they ( dial and hands) are legit, just lousy photos to be more certain
