Rolex Passion Report - What Will Be the Hot Rolex for 2020?

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Hottest item is the Rolex watch cushion last boutique had heaps of them on display.

That's about all they had on display.😉
 
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No real surprises there IMO.
All the items posted about are hot property.
 
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Weren't these the same clowns implicated in all the dodgy Daytona’s in that joke of a Phillips sale?

Their passion is strictly limited towards bumping up the Frankens and “prototypes” their Italian friends have put together.
 
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um. the quote was

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People have been predicting what Rolex would do for as long as I can remember and the predictions never come true. Rolex is gonna do what Rolex is gonna do. Resistance is futile, go with the flow.

this is factually wrong. he nailed his predictions last year with what rolex would come out with and he probably has a source inside rolex.

as to whether the money ruins the watches and his predictions about values . . the values these watches trade at are just an observable fact. yes it would be nice and quaint if they traded at a price that everyone could afford like the good old days, but that is not the case.

do you really expect people spending 50 or 100k or 1mm on a vintage watch to not care about future values ?? that's not how the world works. there are plenty of corners of the vintage world where everyone can afford great watches but vintage rolex isn't likely to ever be one of them again

I’m relatively new to watch collecting, and until very recently, I was also fixated on the future value of the watches that I was considering. Now, I’ve come to the epiphany that if I’m focusing on the future value of these watches, I really can’t responsibly afford to purchase them. The idea that these watches are somehow investments is a very dangerous one, especially to those who are stretching their budgets impossibly thin to acquire them.

If in the future I sell a watch for more than I paid, I’ll consider myself very lucky. These are purely pleasure, nothing more. If I ever catch myself considering their future value, I will stop myself from purchasing them.

The focus on price predictions is going to hurt a lot of people.
 
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Weren't these the same clowns implicated in all the dodgy Daytona’s in that joke of a Phillips sale?

Their passion is strictly limited towards bumping up the Frankens and “prototypes” their Italian friends have put together.

I’d like to see some facts to back up your statement.
That’s a pretty libellous outburst.
 
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manual wind daytonas are down 20% off the peaks.

Perhaps mediocre examples are down, but the good/great examples of 6263s and other manual wind Daytonas, certainly are not down. They're also harder to find now, especially full sets. All Daytonas, old and new, will continue to be strong, IMHO.
 
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What a bunch of BS, it's really hard to imagine that his predications are anything other than self-serving drivel.
 
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Basically, hottest Rolex's are ones most people in the collector community either can't source or afford....OK, Got it!

Phew, that was hard to figure out.
 
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This question never goes down well in hobbyist’s forums. I’m sure they all talk like that in the collector’s forums though.
 
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This question never goes down well in hobbyist’s forums. I’m sure they all talk like that in the collector’s forums though.

In your own words, what difference do you see in the terms "hobbyist" and "collector"..?
 
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Boy!!! well, it looks like lately that purchasing a vintage Rolex...or thinking about eventually buying one, we need to look at reports now? it seems that many people they don't buy it anymore with collectible spirit, but it seems that they're buying stocks at Wall Street!!
I tottaly agree with Jance&fred :" these guys are not observers or reporters, they are very busy dealers" !!
buying any collectible item is very emotional, if you like it you buy it because you love,,,, and you don't look around looking for reports.
I guess the 70's and 80's ate long gone !!
 
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I’m relatively new to watch collecting, and until very recently, I was also fixated on the future value of the watches that I was considering. Now, I’ve come to the epiphany that if I’m focusing on the future value of these watches, I really can’t responsibly afford to purchase them. The idea that these watches are somehow investments is a very dangerous one, especially to those who are stretching their budgets impossibly thin to acquire them.

If in the future I sell a watch for more than I paid, I’ll consider myself very lucky. These are purely pleasure, nothing more. If I ever catch myself considering their future value, I will stop myself from purchasing them.

The focus on price predictions is going to hurt a lot of people.

I agree entirely. I got into vintage cars, as a hobby/passion, not a business, with my dad long before watches, and once asked him about getting a '55 Ford because I could get a great deal on it and had the notion that with a little resto-rod work, it would go the way the 55-56-57 Chevys were going at the time, up, up, and UP. He'd been doing cars in general and hot rods since the 60s and gave me some advice I've found perfect for every hobby I've ever taken up: "If you don't think you'll be happy and proud to own that thing in ten years yourself, you shouldn't be worried a damn about what you can sell it for now or then."
 
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um. the quote was

Evitzee said:
People have been predicting what Rolex would do for as long as I can remember and the predictions never come true. Rolex is gonna do what Rolex is gonna do. Resistance is futile, go with the flow.

this is factually wrong. he nailed his predictions last year with what rolex would come out with and he probably has a source inside rolex.

as to whether the money ruins the watches and his predictions about values . . the values these watches trade at are just an observable fact. yes it would be nice and quaint if they traded at a price that everyone could afford like the good old days, but that is not the case.

do you really expect people spending 50 or 100k or 1mm on a vintage watch to not care about future values ?? that's not how the world works. there are plenty of corners of the vintage world where everyone can afford great watches but vintage rolex isn't likely to ever be one of them again
Agree with last paragraph, if SM 300s were $50k buyers and owners would most likely behave the same way.
 
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They guy forgot about the Sea dwellers.... it’s deems that STE not hot at all?
 
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They guy forgot about the Sea dwellers.... it’s deems that STE not hot at all?

him and his crew probably don't have many in their inventory right now. if they did, you can bet they would be passionately reported as the next hot items.
 
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Hmmm, maybe the hot Rolex for 2020 will be one that doesn’t require the prospective purchaser to get on a waiting list, have made prior purchases of Rolex models that he or she didn’t really want, or pay an outrageous premium for a mid-tier mass produced luxury watch. Then again, nah.
 
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I think that the 50s and 60s Dates, and DateJusts will make a nice comeback, as we get a hangover from all the sports models hype. I would not mind a SS DateJust from the 60s with dauphin hands, and an interesting dial.
 
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I think that the 50s and 60s Dates, and DateJusts will make a nice comeback, as we get a hangover from all the sports models hype. I would not mind a SS DateJust from the 60s with dauphin hands, and an interesting dial.

oh i'm with you on this. the datejusts and dates, along with simple oysters are what put rolex on the map. back a few decades ago no one paid much attention to the sports stuff. datejusts ruled the roost. let's not forget they were also "tool" watches and for all practical purposes just as rugged and water-dust proof as the subs.
 
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Datejust from the 60s with interesting dials are already 3 to 6k, i. e. already overvalued imho compared to similar omega models... (and just compare with a 18k connie!)

No fair deal to be had in the rolex world it seems.