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  1. Sam11 Mar 6, 2020

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    The word automatic doesn't seem like it should be there?
     
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  2. Vitezi Mar 6, 2020

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    It's hard to tell if your watch has been repainted based on that photo. We'll need much better lighting and some focused, straight-on pictures to provide an opinion. That being said...this ad is for a Conquest, not a Flagship...but it shows the same positioning of "Automatic" as your example:
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  3. Mr.Cairo Mar 6, 2020

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    ^ This, and I would second that I have seen that particular configuration before, but indeed a focused photo would be better.
     
  4. Sam11 Mar 6, 2020

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    Yes I have seen that on a Conquest but have not seen the word in that position on a Flagship before
     
  5. Sam11 Mar 6, 2020

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    On a Flagship in that position?
     
  6. Mr.Cairo Mar 6, 2020

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    I believe so, though I can't back it up with photos. But more importantly, do you have a clearer picture?
     
  7. Sam11 Mar 6, 2020

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    I will try to get some more
     
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  9. Vitezi Mar 6, 2020

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    Always be extra suspicious of black print on a white dial. :cautious:
    To my eye, the spacing and centering of "Automatic" seems off, relative to the winged hourglass.
    No SWISS at 6?
    And is that a minute marker printed on top of that hour marker, or just a shadow?
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  10. Mr.Cairo Mar 6, 2020

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    I'll carefully say that it looks good to me. Photo still quite hazy, though.

    The darkness on the 8 marker could be a shadow; the light source seems to come from above at 12
     
  11. Mr.Cairo Mar 6, 2020

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    Not the same watch, but perhaps useful to compare with

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  12. Mr.Cairo Mar 6, 2020

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    Different font, but automatic under the hourglass logo:


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  13. seekingseaquest Mar 6, 2020

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    I do not recall seeing this dial print/print location on a Flagship of this era, so I am wary.
     
  14. Rumar89 Mar 6, 2020

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    The automatic in that location is unusual, but I don’t have any doubts about the originality of the dial. The quality of the font looks too good to be a re-dial IMHO. And I think @Vitezi’s concerns about the location of aromatic on the dial are because the photo isn’t taken straight on; the watch is slightly turned to the left.

    It looks like there is a Swiss at 6 that is just obscured by the crystal.

    Is this solid gold and do you know the movement? Knowing the caliber in particular would help narrow down a time frame/originality.
     
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  15. Sam11 Mar 6, 2020

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    It is indeed solid gold. Not sure about the calibre though. I have just never seen the automatic in that configuration on a Flagship dial that's all.
     
  16. ERBM Mar 6, 2020

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    I second this. If it is a re-dial I'd love to know who do it, it's a very good one in my opinion.
     
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  17. Dan S Mar 6, 2020

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    Dial looks pretty good to me overall. I haven’t researched the details though.

    And just looking on my phone ...
     
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  18. Sam11 Mar 6, 2020

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    Perhaps some one could have used an authentic ultrachron flagship dial or conquest dial and replaced it?
     
  19. Mr.Cairo Mar 7, 2020

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    It does say Flagship, so can't be a Conquest dial. To me, as others have mentioned, the writing looks too fine to be a redial. It would not be unheard of for Longines to have dial variations like that.

    Compare the quality of the font with the HF example I posted. The style and quality is identical. So my opinion remains as before, probably authentic.
     
  20. Mr.Cairo Mar 7, 2020

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    For what it's worth, the Heritage Flagship had this configuration (Automatic under logo), maybe they got the inspiration from some vintage model unknown to us

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