Ref. 105.012-66 CB movement reference question for experts

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COMPARISON OF VERY LATE IN THE SERIAL NUMBER RANGE 105.012-65:

I will throw mine into the ring just to add a comparison. Simon Freese told me my watch is very late for a 105.012-65. We have had my 105.012-65 in our family for around 50 years.

Original movement and 105.012-65 Case back is also original. (It had incorrect service hands, crown and bracelet fitted in the 1970's. Hands and crown corrected in 2017) Apart from that, the watch hasn't changed since I was a kid. I'm now a Grandfather, so that is a 50 years of family ownership.





It has a production date on the Omega Extract of the Archives of January 6th 1967 and the serial number is also confirmed by Omega.



The 321 movement serial, 24531×××, on my watch, is very late for this reference, but within range according to Moonwatch Only. Moowatch shows a slight overlap between the 105.012 -65 and the 105.012-66
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This is exactly the point and the reason why I started the post.

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This is exactly the point and the reason why I started the post.

Cheers
I think the interesting thing abut the Moonwatch Only serial ranges is that they use the term "Movement numbers seen:"

Before the Moonwatch Only serial ranges were published, other Internet sources seemed to place my, very late serial, number out of range for a 105.012-65. I was a bit concerned, but fortunately we had a 50 year consistent family history and the Omega Extract to confirm that it was correct.

We can have a 105.012-65 at 24537xxx, and a 105.012-66 at 24533xxx. That seems to suggest that (within a reasonable range) there may be other (so far "unseen") movement numbers that could extend that overlap a tiny bit further.

Maybe the book, and other sources should say "Movement numbers seen SO FAR"
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This is exactly the point and the reason why I started the post.

Would therefore a 25.001.xxx movement be ok for a 105.012 from 1966 in the experts point of view?
Thank you

What is the point exactly? Can you clarify the question.

Above is the original question in the post, which is ambiguous. If you are asking whether that serial could be correct for a reference 105.012-66, then the answer is yes. However, if you are asking if it would likely have a production date in 1966 according to an extract, then the answer is no. That serial is dead-on for a 105.012-66, but would have been produced in 1967 or 1968.

I think that this is all explained clearly in MWO, the ilovemyspeedmaster website, etc. The final image from @nonuffinkbloke's post says it all. Just read it.

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What is the point exactly? Can you clarify the question.

Above is the original question in the post, which is ambiguous. If you are asking whether that serial could be correct for a reference 105.012-66, then the answer is yes. However, if you are asking if it would likely have a production date in 1966 according to an extract, then the answer is no. That serial is dead-on for a 105.012-66, but would have been produced in 1967 or 1968.

I think that this is all explained clearly in MWO, the ilovemyspeedmaster website, etc. The final image from @nonuffinkbloke's post says it all. Just read it.

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Yes Dan, you are correct.

25.440xxx serial and a 105.012-66 case back is OK. So far so good. An Omega Extract with a 67 or 68 production date would be lovely!😀
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Hi I inherited to this watch from my late father. Here is the information that I have.Is this watch was the watch used in a mission to moon every information indication that research leads in that direction, but I can’t know until I have verification from "WHO" is that is possible i talk to Omega they say its so old they dodnt have records talk and contact 100 plus places but no concert answers in any case a" nybody" thank you
 
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Looks like original Speedmaster 105.012-66 as you have written. This reference did go to Moon but was not on the first Apollo 11 landing. It was on Apollo 13 and was the famous watch used to time the 14 second burn to correct the reentry path on the crippled spacecraft and save the astronauts. I think it was also on other Apollo missions.
Do you have better focused photo of dial, and photo of Caseback?
Does it run? Has it been serviced? I assume you will keep it as a treasured heirloom from your father?

There is much here on OF and this dedicated thread for your reference will be of interest.

 
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Looks like original Speedmaster 105.012-66 as you have written. This reference did go to Moon but was not on the first Apollo 11 landing. It was on Apollo 13 and was the famous watch used to time the 14 second burn to correct the reentry path on the crippled spacecraft and save the astronauts. I think it was also on other Apollo missions.
Do you have better focused photo of dial, and photo of Caseback?
Does it run? Has it been serviced? I assume you will keep it as a treasured heirloom from your father?

There is much here on OF and this dedicated thread for your reference will be of interest.

Hi hello and thx for update about a mission honestly i didn't know much about this un till my Dads passing so i'm learning as i go i'm interested in story and naturally what it das to its value if we decide to sell what where to whom i have no clue if you can share any direction will be much appreciated in any case best of Admir
 
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Do Advanced search on ebay for completed auction sales and type in Omega 105.012 you will get a list of completed auctions and you can compaare your watch with others in similar condition to determine auction value.
 
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Do Advanced search on ebay for completed auction sales and type in Omega 105.012 you will get a list of completed auctions and you can compaare your watch with others in similar condition to determine auction value.
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This reference did go to Moon but was not on the first Apollo 11 landing. It was on Apollo 13 and was the famous watch used to time the 14 second burn to correct the reentry path on the crippled spacecraft and save the astronauts
Whoa I didn’t know that about 105.012-66. Was it an HF or CB?
 
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Hi I inherited to this watch from my late father. Here is the information that I have.Is this watch was the watch used in a mission to moon every information indication that research leads in that direction, but I can’t know until I have verification from "WHO" is that is possible i talk to Omega they say its so old they dodnt have records talk and contact 100 plus places but no concert answers in any case a" nybody" thank you
Hi, and welcome to the Forum!
You have got a nice watch from your father, and I do hope that you plan to service the watch and keep it...?

I have a soft spot for 105.012-66´s, and here is a nice thread for you:


Lots of pictures and info.
You have an HF case, and coincidentally, I have one (a CB case) with only 6 nr away from your serial nr!!
My production was August 3, 1967