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ErichPryde
··Seamasters ForeverI've been seeing quite a few fake Nautiluses and AP RO's being worn now.
With the younger crowd? That's interesting. I think the most faked watch I've seen at this point is the Daytona, but it is mostly not young kids wearing them. I have seen a
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ErichPryde
··Seamasters ForeverNautili?
In casual use, either. In English from Latin, it would be Nautili. In English from Greek, it would be Nautiluses. "Nautilus" is a Latin word derived directly from Greek, so it doesn't matter a ton which plural you use all that much, as i and es endings are used more interchangeably these days, even sometimes by biologists (and "eses" is even sometimes favored for clarity in English).
It's a fun debate though if you're into semantics- octopuses is proper while octopi is technically wrong because it would have to be an octopod, and not an octopus, to get the Englishifed Latin plural.
So..... cats next?
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texasmade
·So..... cats next?
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Pastorbottle
·My gf and I adopted a cat back in October and then adopted the orange cat a couple of weeks ago
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Duckie
·That's assuming of course, that people weren't actually wearing fake nautiluses on their wrist- some people are into Jurassic costume jewelry
I can see fake Nautileseses as costume jewellery.
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Duckie
·In casual use, either. In English from Latin, it would be Nautili. In English from Greek, it would be Nautiluses. "Nautilus" is a Latin word derived directly from Greek, so it doesn't matter a ton which plural you use all that much, as i and es endings are used more interchangeably these days, even sometimes by biologists (and "eses" is even sometimes favored for clarity in English).
It's a fun debate though if you're into semantics- octopuses is proper while octopi is technically wrong because it would have to be an octopod, and not an octopus, to get the Englishifed Latin plural.
So..... cats next?
Or for that matter Fronius welding machines or inverters. For example.
Perhaps we could simply say Rolii or Fronii?
Maybe in modern vernacular, Rolexes or Froniuses?
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JTDT
·It looks like Oisin just joined the club on this
I have to admit, although his viewpoints are strong, he speaks a lot of truth.
I have to admit, although his viewpoints are strong, he speaks a lot of truth.
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Duckie
·It looks like Oisin just joined the club on this
I have to admit, although his viewpoints are strong, he speaks a lot of truth.
It seems there's little doubt that Tudor are starting to eat Omega's lunch. So there's that which is something we can probably park to one side.
Then there was the MoonSwatch thing.
Ok, i can see where at the time, Swatch group could envision a MoonSwatch being like a gateway drug to Omega. But in the fullness of a short period of time, the world is being turned upside down on every level no matter who one is or or their views of the world.
How people are living is being reevaluated by themselves and somebody else higher up. This is having impacts.
Maybe Covis-19 was the major disruptor of our time which has impacted everything in ways we can't fathom.
To come back to the MoonSwatch.
I think it was a disruptor in of itself for the core offering of Omega's catalogue. In essence, they hollowed out the core of the Speedy pro world.
Then there have been the price increases and Omega are not alone in that. But at one end of it, there is MoonSwatch pricing and at the other end there's the standard Hesalite speedy pricing and it goes up from there.
Which leaves space for Tudor and more so for a whole slew of micro brands.
Now we have controversy around the origins of components, that is casting a shadow over the whole Swiss watch industry and is even reflecting on Rolex at this stage. People are looking more closely at the value proposition of Swiss watchmaking.
I'm disapointed at Omega's choice to settle on more clearly defined edges and i'll refain from describing them as sharp because they aren't sharp per se. But i can see how the perception could be there.
It seems as though Omega are moving toward Super Crisp edges as opposed to other brands offerings. I don't mind the edges being Super Crisp and when i try the watches on at the dealer, i don't feel any discomfort. But then again i'm not wearing any of these newer watches day in day out so i can't judge properly.
We are seeing these Super Crisp edges on the 3861 Speedy and now the PO has had a major overhaul which reflects the same direction.
To the PO, i think the PO needed something done about it.
Though i liked the first variation and nearly bought the LM limited edition but couldn't justify the money at the time as i'd just picked up the Railmaster with a 2403 under the bonnet and i couldn't be happier with that choice in 2005.
After the first PO, i was bewildered by the direction the PO was going and kept going.
IMO, it's no wonder they weren't a big mover when the SMP was such good value overall.
I'll get a 3861 Speedy one day.
Also a new PO.
But i won't be paying full price however that comes to pass. We have to watch our pennies in our household now days.
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DoctorEvil
·Omega has always been my go to luxury brand, and probably always will be. I still think the quality they offer is about as good as you get, for the price. They're available, not pretentious like Rolex, and every bit as good (in my opinion). And they're more striking. People notice my SMP 300 more than my Submariner. It seems as though their quality has definitely improved over the last 20 years. And I have no problem spending maybe $5k on a modern Omega, than $15k on a Rolex.
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SpeedyPhill
·Well, not directly Tudor, but price-wise an interesting Hanhart :
https://www.fratellowatches.com/introducing-the-hanhart-417-ti-desert-pilot-limited-editions/
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Check the YouTube video ” Omega needs fixing ” by channel ” This Watch, That Watch “.
The many comments, mostly by Omega aficionados, speak volumes !!!
https://www.fratellowatches.com/introducing-the-hanhart-417-ti-desert-pilot-limited-editions/
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Check the YouTube video ” Omega needs fixing ” by channel ” This Watch, That Watch “.
The many comments, mostly by Omega aficionados, speak volumes !!!
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DoctorEvil
·It looks like Oisin just joined the club on this
I have to admit, although his viewpoints are strong, he speaks a lot of truth.
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Duckie
·The trouble is, you can't get a new Omega for that price anymore. Some potential Omega customers have now deserted the brand because its seen as too expensive for what they are and no longer good value. And because they depreciate in value, buyers don't see them as an asset (unlike stainless steel sports Rolex). To me, it explains why Rolex can get keep getting away with regular price rises but Omega can't.
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Duckie
·Thanks for sharing that vid. Some valid points, the main one IMHO being the recent price hikes. Omega are trying to move into the same space as Rolex and it looks like it's going to backfire on them. Agree that it breaks my heart to see this happen to my favorite watch brand. As to quality control, I've handled some current Omegas recently including the Speedmaster and Aqua Terra. Can't say that I found the cases "super sharp" like what he's saying. And Omega's co-axial movements are amazing, if my Aqua Terra with calibre 8500 is anything to go by. Beautiful to look at, and keeping time to within +0.5 to +1.0 secs per day.
It is what it is with Omega, just as it is with these modern Rolex watches and their escapements.
I do have more faith in Omega's capacity to put things right though😉
And maybe Omega are sound value when bought at the right price.
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DoctorEvil
·Well, not directly Tudor, but price-wise an interesting Hanhart :
https://www.fratellowatches.com/introducing-the-hanhart-417-ti-desert-pilot-limited-editions/
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Check the YouTube video ” Omega needs fixing ” by channel ” This Watch, That Watch “.
The many comments, mostly by Omega aficionados, speak volumes !!!
Some interesting points. I personally think that it's great that Omega offers so many different types of watches in its catalogue, some of which are pretty cool. Maybe a bit less variation in each model line, as the presenter is suggesting, to make it less tedious to browse through their website?
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DoctorEvil
·Personally, i can't be totally enamoured with the Co-axial. It's the answer to a problem that's not really a problem, but Omega has made the decision to jump in boots and all.
It is what it is with Omega, just as it is with these modern Rolex watches and their escapements.
I do have more faith in Omega's capacity to put things right though😉
And maybe Omega are sound value when bought at the right price.
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knafel1983
·The trouble is, you can't get a new Omega for that price anymore. Some potential Omega customers have now deserted the brand because its seen as too expensive for what they are and no longer good value. And because they depreciate in value, buyers don't see them as an asset (unlike stainless steel sports Rolex). To me, it explains why Rolex can get keep getting away with regular price rises but Omega can't.
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