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Real or Fake? 1962 Omega Constellation

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Hi all!

I’m seriously considering purchasing this 1962 Omega constellation but want to make sure it’s authentic and original. Would love your expert opinions. I’m worried about being scammed.

Thanks in advance!

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Omega Constellation Ref. 14902/3 SC-62 (1962)
  • Case: 34mm, Solid 18K Gold (750 Swiss hallmarks)
  • Case Back: Screw-back with Observatory Medallion
  • Dial: Original champagne "Pie-Pan" with Date
  • Hands/Crown: Original Dauphine hands and Omega crown
  • Crystal: Acrylic
  • Movement: Caliber 561 automatic (24 jewels, Chronometer certified)
  • Condition: Sharp case lines, light wear, clean running movement
  • Strap: New aftermarket leather

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Looks ok to me. I see this is on Etsy. A LOT of scams going on there. Please make sure you not only purchase through Etsy for their protection, but also with a credit card for another layer of protection.

There have been many instances of shops mysteriously closing right after or not too long after purchase. They will “ship” the watch and you will not be able to contest the purchase through Etsy until the estimated delivery date has passed.
 
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It's genuine. The gold case was made for Omega by Serva SA of La-Chaux-de-Fonds.

As noted by @amuscare87, make sure you are covered when buying on Etsy, especially for anything like this.
 
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Looks ok to me. I see this is on Etsy. A LOT of scams going on there. Please make sure you not only purchase through Etsy for their protection, but also with a credit card for another layer of protection.

There have been many instances of shops mysteriously closing right after or not too long after purchase. They will “ship” the watch and you will not be able to contest the purchase through Etsy until the estimated delivery date has passed.
Thanks for the advice. Yes, I fully plan on purchasing through Etsy - I checked to ensure it’s covered through their policy. I’ll make sure to use a credit card too.
 
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I have questions on this watch.

1. 21M serial number means movement was made in 1964. Omega had moved on from 5-digit case references by then. Should be a Ref 168.005.

2. All the pictures are sharp except for the dial shot. That is strange.

3. I noticed a lot of very good fakes of other vintage Constellations on Etsy. Not saying that this one is fake, but it doesn’t give me a lot of confidence.

If you have already bought it, I hope you have a return privilege. I would have both the case and dial tested to make sure they are solid 18K gold like they are supposed to be.
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I have questions on this watch.

1. 21M serial number means movement was made in 1964. Omega had moved on from 5-digit case references by then. Should be a Ref 168.005.

2. All the pictures are sharp except for the dial shot. That is strange.

3. I noticed a lot of very good fakes of other vintage Constellations on Etsy. Not saying that this one is fake, but it doesn’t give me a lot of confidence.

If you have already bought it, I hope you have a return privilege. I would have both the case and dial tested to make sure they are solid 18K gold like they are supposed to be.
gatorcpa
I think you’re right! Do you think this is a factory-certified service replacement movement plausible for this era, or should this be viewed as a classic 'Frankenwatch' combination?
 
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I think you’re right! Do you think this is a factory-certified service replacement movement plausible for this era, or should this be viewed as a classic 'Frankenwatch' combination?

May I ask what the price is?
 
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$2,900 CAD

I smell scam. Just a little over 2,000 USD for an 18k constellation in good shape?

If it seems to good to be true………
 
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If something is too good to be true, it probably is.

If real, it’s a US$3,500 to $4,000 watch.
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I agree that the price is rather suspicious (as is the blurriness of the photo of the dial). This would cause me to walk away, even though perhaps it is through ignorance / neglect rather than malice on the part of the seller.

Does the seller mainly deal in watches, in high volumes? Or is it a one-off sort of sale from someone who typically sells something else?
 
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I agree that the price is rather suspicious (as is the blurriness of the photo of the dial). This would cause me to walk away, even though perhaps it is through ignorance / neglect rather than malice on the part of the seller.

Does the seller mainly deal in watches, in high volumes? Or is it a one-off sort of sale from someone who typically sells something else?
They only sell omegas. Currently, there’s 10-12 omegas for sale. It says the shop has been on Etsy for 14 years (according to Etsy) they’ve had 7 sales.
 
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They only sell omegas. Currently, there’s 10-12 omegas for sale. It says the shop has been on Etsy for 14 years (according to Etsy) they’ve had 7 sales.

Are all the prices too good to be true?
 
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To give you an idea. Also, thanks for all of the advice.

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Now I’m really confused because all those are overpriced. Usually with these gold pieces on Etsy shops, they will have 4 or 5 at a time all 18k in harder to find variations for 2k.
 
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Now I’m really confused because all those are overpriced.
I agree - that's really puzzling. It seems possible the seller is just wildly out of their depth
 
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They only sell omegas. Currently, there’s 10-12 omegas for sale. It says the shop has been on Etsy for 14 years (according to Etsy) they’ve had 7 sales.
... perhaps evidenced by the fact that they've had 7 sales in 14 years
 
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I agree - that's really puzzling. It seems possible the seller is just wildly out of their depth
Right?! That’s why I am wondering if I found a needle in a haystack (sans the movement number discrepancy) or am getting ripped off.
 
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I'm wary, possibly just through an overabundance of caution, and would walk away myself.

But, if you are up for dealing with the hassle of possibly not receiving the watch, testing the gold, and possibly going through a return process - perhaps it could be something of an adventure.
 
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I'm wary, possibly just through an overabundance of caution, and would walk away myself.

But, if you are up for dealing with the hassle of possibly not receiving the watch, testing the gold, and possibly going through a return process - perhaps it could be something of an adventure.
As crazy as it sounds, I’m tempted to live dangerously. I’m covered by Etsy and my credit card. It would be a hassle to take it to a watchmaker for testing but could you imagine if it panned out? 😬
 
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