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Rate My Omega Collection: Vintage Cal. 565 and NTTD

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Nori0913 Nori0913
To be completely honest with you guys, you caught me. I don’t speak English fluently, so I’ve been using AI to translate my deep thoughts into these posts because I wanted to test the intellectual depth of this community. And wow, you guys delivered.
Now that the ice is broken, I want to ask for your genuine expertise. I already know the standard textbook facts: that my grandfather's ST 166.0067 runs on the legendary Cal. 565 with the 1037/614 combo, that the NTTD is a titanium masterpiece, and that my early 2025 Silver Snoopy has the "Button Suit" error on a Moonwatch bracelet.
What I am truly looking for—and what I cannot find in standard articles or Japanese watch media—is the unwritten knowledge that only exists in deep forums like this.
I want to know the things I don't know. What are the specific production anomalies, hidden historical links, or shifting market dynamics surrounding these three pieces from a serious global collector's perspective? How does the global community truly view the long-term historical and financial trajectory of an error dial like this Snoopy or a vintage reference like this Seamaster?

Please share your unvarnished, deep horological wisdom with a non-native collector who genuinely wants to learn from the best.
To be completely honest with you in return, you need urgently to exchange your AI for one with some manners. Your final post last Sunday was breathtakingly inappropriate and offensive, which is why there was a very long subsequent pause before anyone engaged with you. One would have thought that in Japan such issues would be seen as important. I would not presume that "the ice is broken"; I don't think the community welcomes a newcomer testing its "intellectual depth" in this fashion; and we don't know the things you don't know any better than you do - how could we?

On the watches, before your outburst last Sunday you received welcomes from a number of members much more distinguished than me, and completely proportionate praise for your collection, which I agree with. But there was then a polite pause, which appeared to enrage you. To be blunt, this may have been because none of the pieces you displayed was anything that members have not seen before or which would merit describing as spectacular or rare, but it would have been bad manners and contrary to the spirit of the forum to say so.

It is good to know that you are very keen to learn and that you hold the forum in high esteem - at least on those days when you don't believe it to be "nothing more than a meaningless community driven solely by people seeking validation from others". Now that you have forgiven the community, you will find the site has very helpful search functions, and you will be able to find out a lot in the subject areas that interest you, and I hope that you will. Meantime, please remember to junk TrollAI.
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Nori0913 Nori0913
Touché. Now that is the kind of parkour I was waiting for. You didn’t just say your name; you single-handedly saved the purpose of this sub.
Your take on the NTTD’s manufactured nostalgia is spot on—it’s the perfect elite toy for a desk-diver's existential dread. Consider my disappointment officially paused.
Glad you’re back from the brink. I’m new here also but can say with relative certainty that you won’t get the back-and-forth you’re looking for if it involves people genuflecting at your collection right off the bat.

Joking aside, I’d say you got a great (surprisingly gentle, all things considered) intro to the forum! Welcome!
 
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bsowers34 bsowers34
I don't consider the Snoopy dials to be "errors", just production variances. The one I got in 2025 HAS a zipper, it's just faint, and no foot line. But it's not washed out as some have said, the paint is sharply edged and you can see all of the detail. I'm fine with it. And have been offered more than I paid for it more than once.
Interesting! It reminds me of how certain vintage dial variations became legendary over time. Do you believe this specific Snoopy dial has the potential to hold real historical significance for Omega collectors in the future? Or do you see it remaining just a minor production footnote?
 
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220SPEED 220SPEED
Glad you’re back from the brink. I’m new here also but can say with relative certainty that you won’t get the back-and-forth you’re looking for if it involves people genuflecting at your collection right off the bat.

Joking aside, I’d say you got a great (surprisingly gentle, all things considered) intro to the forum! Welcome!
Haha, thanks for the reality check and the warm welcome! You're completely right. I'm just eager to learn and discuss, not looking for any genuflecting.
 
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Nori0913 Nori0913
Haha, thanks for the reality check and the warm welcome! You're completely right. I'm just eager to learn and discuss, not looking for any genuflecting.
You’re in the right spot 👍
Looking forward to learning alongside you.
 
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私は他人の評価を余り気にしない人種です。その前提で拙いaiを利用しないと全く皆さんと会話ができないので仕方なく翻訳機能を利用します。
でも、日本人です。
I think you are confusing two completely different things. My eagerness and desperation to get deeper opinions about watch history has absolutely nothing to do with my race or nationality. Bringing up stereotypes about "how Japanese people should act" is irrelevant to the discussion about the watches.
I relied on an AI tool to express my passion for this hobby, and if the translation came across as rude, that was a misunderstanding. But please do not conflate my desperate desire to learn with cultural expectations.
 
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Hi everyone,
I wanted to step away from the previous back-and-forth and deeply ask for your collective wisdom on two Omega pieces that mean a lot to me. I’m genuinely looking to learn from your experience regarding their long-term collectibility and historical value.
First is my vintage Seamaster with a silver sparkle dial, which I’ve owned for a long time. What strikes me most about this watch is the condition—the dial has barely degraded at all compared to the hands, retaining its beautiful original texture. In your experience, how does the watch community view the long-term rarity and value of a well-preserved sparkle dial like this? Is it something worth holding onto for the long haul?
Second is the recent Snoopy. I know there has been a lot of heated debate about whether the missing details on the 2025/2026 dials constitute a true "error" or just a production variance. But looking at it from a historical and lore perspective, I feel this variance raises a critical question.
This watch is a direct homage to the Silver Snoopy Award, which honors Omega's role in saving the lives of the Apollo 13 astronauts. With that context in mind, details like the zipper or suit lines are not just decorations—they represent a spacesuit. A spacesuit without a proper zipper, buttons, or closure means death in the vacuum of space. For a timepiece dedicated to space rescue, having a "flaw" in the very suit that protects life feels like a massive contradiction.
Do you think the watch community will eventually recognize this specific dial anomaly as a historically significant, heavily discussed rarity because of this conceptual contradiction? Or do you think it will just be dismissed as a minor factory oversight?
I’m genuinely curious about the big picture here and would love to hear your honest, collector-to-collector insights.
Thanks for reading.
 
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By the way, setting aside the debate over whether it’s a variance or an error—how many of these "button suit" dials have you guys actually come across?
When I sold the one I bought at the Omega boutique to search specifically for a button suit dial, I could only find two examples in the entire Japanese market.
 
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Nori0913 Nori0913
By the way, setting aside the debate over whether it’s a variance or an error—how many of these "button suit" dials have you guys actually come across?
When I sold the one I bought at the Omega boutique to search specifically for a button suit dial, I could only find two examples in the entire Japanese market.
Check this thread:

https://omegaforums.net/threads/snoopy-2025-production-issues.184731/ Cover Image
Thread 'Snoopy 2025 production issues?' ·
Update for future readers: Line thinness/thickness is considered in spec. Missing details is something Omega will likely work with customers who are unhappy to address. If this affects you, and...
kidnamedomega ·
 
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Nori0913 Nori0913
Hi everyone,
I wanted to step away from the previous back-and-forth and deeply ask for your collective wisdom on two Omega pieces that mean a lot to me. I’m genuinely looking to learn from your experience regarding their long-term collectibility and historical value.
First is my vintage Seamaster with a silver sparkle dial, which I’ve owned for a long time. What strikes me most about this watch is the condition—the dial has barely degraded at all compared to the hands, retaining its beautiful original texture. In your experience, how does the watch community view the long-term rarity and value of a well-preserved sparkle dial like this? Is it something worth holding onto for the long haul?
Second is the recent Snoopy. I know there has been a lot of heated debate about whether the missing details on the 2025/2026 dials constitute a true "error" or just a production variance. But looking at it from a historical and lore perspective, I feel this variance raises a critical question.
This watch is a direct homage to the Silver Snoopy Award, which honors Omega's role in saving the lives of the Apollo 13 astronauts. With that context in mind, details like the zipper or suit lines are not just decorations—they represent a spacesuit. A spacesuit without a proper zipper, buttons, or closure means death in the vacuum of space. For a timepiece dedicated to space rescue, having a "flaw" in the very suit that protects life feels like a massive contradiction.
Do you think the watch community will eventually recognize this specific dial anomaly as a historically significant, heavily discussed rarity because of this conceptual contradiction? Or do you think it will just be dismissed as a minor factory oversight?
I’m genuinely curious about the big picture here and would love to hear your honest, collector-to-collector insights.
Thanks for reading.
As I said before, production variations don't matter to me. Or anyone else that has not followed the discussions here. I have been offered more than I paid for mine by wholesale buyers, so I don't think it matters valuewise much if at all.
 
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OP

Buy what you like, keep it or sell it. Keep it simple.

About as deep and intellectual this 'ol Texan from the sticks can get with watches when the back 40 needs rakin' and bailin'.
 
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YY77 YY77
Check this thread:

https://omegaforums.net/threads/snoopy-2025-production-issues.184731/ Cover Image
Thread 'Snoopy 2025 production issues?' ·
Update for future readers: Line thinness/thickness is considered in spec. Missing details is something Omega will likely work with customers who are unhappy to address. If this affects you, and...
kidnamedomega ·
YY77 YY77
Check this thread:

https://omegaforums.net/threads/snoopy-2025-production-issues.184731/ Cover Image
Thread 'Snoopy 2025 production issues?' ·
Update for future readers: Line thinness/thickness is considered in spec. Missing details is something Omega will likely work with customers who are unhappy to address. If this affects you, and...
kidnamedomega ·
To be honest, this thread hasn't really dove into the numbers or analyzed just how many of these error dials are actually out there.
 
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Nori0913 Nori0913
To be honest, this thread hasn't really dove into the numbers or analyzed just how many of these error dials are actually out there.
Maybe try TRF.
 
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With all due respect, I created this thread because I believed Omega Forums would be the best place to find knowledgeable insights about Omega watches. However, looking at this and other threads, I notice a lot of replies that do not offer actual answers or opinions related to the initial questions.
To be clear, I do not need replies that sound like discomfort, petty arguments, or irrelevant objections in my thread. If you want to engage in that kind of behavior, please create your own thread and do it there.
 
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Omg hey bestie, I am literally, like, high-key holding so much space for you right now and I need to radically step into my truth to profusely apologize from the absolute bottom of my authentic soul for the total vibe shift that occurred, which was honestly so not aligned with my personal brand or our collective workspace synergy. I am so, so, so validly sorry if my actions manifested any toxic energy or disrupted your manifestation journey, because at the end of the day, it really is what it is, and I want to proactively circle back, do a deep dive, and unpack this entire narrative with a total growth mindset so we can organically optimize our forward-facing trajectory. Per my previous vibes, my emotional bandwidth was just completely maxed out due to some unprecedented internal shifts, but that is totally a me-problem and not a you-problem, and I am literally so obsessed with taking massive accountability for how this impacted your personal ecosystem. Please know that I am actively learning and unlearning in this space, leveraging this disruptive moment as a teachable milestone, and I really hope we can touch base offline to organically pivot toward a place of mutual empowerment and holistic healing, because honestly, our vibe is just too iconic to not be dynamically maximized.
 
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