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whitewolf777
·The medallion on the case back is really nice.
I will try to post a picture.
I will try to post a picture.
“RAID” Speedmaster
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Daguy
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kov
·Is the the Comex of Omega?
Certainly not. It doesn't have any story. It's the story that makes of Comex, COMEX.
To me it's just a customized speedmaster made for an organization I don't care about. There is no story other than somebody decided to make a customized special edition...
Comex watches were used for something special and they contributed to improve certain models and case designs.
RAID Speedmasters don't have any other stories than their owners trying to speculate on their value.
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Daguy
·Yes, but it's hard to wear a shiny watch like a Speed on operation. It's not really a low-key watch on a Black-ops uniform
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··schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collectorIt was priced quite aggressively at over 15000 €uros.
€15000 for a plain Speedmaster with a few coloured hands and a caseback ......🤦
What is your opinion? Should one seek these or flee from them?
Just this thread alone the waters of this watch are becoming muddy.
For me it may be a French collectable more than anywhere else. But the €15k for a few coloured hands is still doing my head in.
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Daguy
·€15000 for a plain Speedmaster with a few coloured hands and a caseback ......🤦
that’s the same for a simple red line on a submariner But i understand !
I think Macedo wanted to do the same operation as Olivine with GSPR submariner
Just this thread alone the waters of this watch are becoming muddy.
For me it may be a French collectable more than anywhere else. But the €15k for a few coloured hands is still doing my head in.
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Daguy
·I think Macedo wanted to do the same operation as Olivine with GSPR submariner
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··schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collectorSorry but nothing like a red line on a Sub.
A Sub is a vintage watch made in a small batch that became collectable over time. Not overnight.
Why do I get a pump and dump feeling on this watch already. 😗
A Sub is a vintage watch made in a small batch that became collectable over time. Not overnight.
Why do I get a pump and dump feeling on this watch already. 😗
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·I have both and it's the same! Yes, true vintage and the patina of old Rolex or Omega have a lot of charm, but between a red line or a white line, it is only a difference in paint that does not justify the price. a matter of taste.
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·Sorry but nothing like a red line on a Sub.
A Sub is a vintage watch made in a small batch that became collectable over time. Not overnight.
Why do I get a pump and dump feeling on this watch already. 😗
Far, far more red line Submariners than RAID Speedmasters.
That said, to me this is not comparable to an issued watch that was meant as a part of the kit necessary for that particular outfit to do its job. This, like any luxury watch, is an expensive gadget. This one just have a bit more colour.
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··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...This watch exists in the same area as all the MOD watches with custom casebacks. They are out there, offered in group buys to members of the squadron etc. ( other military groups did this as well, just seems the most common with the MOD)
I’ve seen at least 5, some with engraved casebacks, some with the enamel casebacks. Always are a seamaster of some type either planet oceans or SMP’s.
this is only noteable as it’s a Speedmaster and does more then the caseback.
is it more desirable then a Galaxy Express LE? It’s not more desirable then the NASA serial numbered and engraved x-33’s and the market has spoken multiple times on those 10 or so out there.
rarity does not mean more expensive. It’s an interesting piece but I don’t see a real market for it out side some collectors that need to have it. It’s not an issued piece. Sure it’s attractive... is it more attractive then an ST2 Ultraman? ST1? I don’t think so.
I’ve seen at least 5, some with engraved casebacks, some with the enamel casebacks. Always are a seamaster of some type either planet oceans or SMP’s.
this is only noteable as it’s a Speedmaster and does more then the caseback.
is it more desirable then a Galaxy Express LE? It’s not more desirable then the NASA serial numbered and engraved x-33’s and the market has spoken multiple times on those 10 or so out there.
rarity does not mean more expensive. It’s an interesting piece but I don’t see a real market for it out side some collectors that need to have it. It’s not an issued piece. Sure it’s attractive... is it more attractive then an ST2 Ultraman? ST1? I don’t think so.
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··Oooo subtitles!This is a nice piece I like the colour scheme and there are worse outfits to have a connection with I guess. At a sensible price I'd have one but that price would be ~$4,000-5000 tops, ie $500-1000 over a std watch. Some of the Missions watches are much nastier than this and don't get me started on the Apollo 17 silver medal dial thing. This is preferable to those surely.
Most squadron specials aren't all that special when it comes to resale in my experience. As Foo says, Omega have been down this road before with Seamasters etc. Breitling have done dozens and none commands much of a premium over the base watch. Even Rolex aren't immune, Google the Seaking GMT-II. That one was pumped and dumped from Day one.
Most squadron specials aren't all that special when it comes to resale in my experience. As Foo says, Omega have been down this road before with Seamasters etc. Breitling have done dozens and none commands much of a premium over the base watch. Even Rolex aren't immune, Google the Seaking GMT-II. That one was pumped and dumped from Day one.
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·Well I do think commemorative watches are a bit more honest than watches manufactured then sold to the general public as "special" models with specific features for police/military use. Those are the real wannabes and most contrived. Most modern Marathons and the Bell&Ross Demineur come to mind. I had a Demineur I bought a few years ago from some gee in the Philippines and thought it was kinda cool and liked it, but never for a moment thought bomb squad members in France were issued it, or believed the manufacturer's claim that it was designed for special use by that French military unit. The watch even has a date function. What...bomb diffusion is a delicate operation and hinges on the day of the month? 😁
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whitewolf777
·Thank you all for your insight and thoughts.
The watch is cool. I guess the pricing might be off. Time will tell.
The watch is cool. I guess the pricing might be off. Time will tell.
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bazderome
·I am one of the lucky owners of one. The watch looks nice with its subtle differences from a “regular” speedy.
What brought me to it, behind the link to the prestigious “RAID” unit, is the fact that to my knowledge it is the most limited of the stainless steel limited Speedmasters. Certainly not the loudest, but definitely exclusive. To my knowledge there is no precedent of a limited série like this granted by omega and it is not certain there will be another. It was priced quite aggressively at over 15000 €uros. If one is a serious collector of limited speedies, I believe it can be a must have, even though it is not linked to the moon conquest history. Japanese manga and Japanese TV shows are not more linked to the moon conquest. The Ultraman has still found its way to some collectors hearts. Will this watch turn out to be a rare treasure or be rejected? Only time will tell. What remains is that 1 of 250 makes it quite exclusive especially if Omega does not venture into something similar soon. The watches will show up gradually in the market but to my opinion quite discreetly. Members of the raid might cherish them, and because they need to remain discreet they might not sell theirs before retirement. Is the the Comex of Omega? Maybe, maybe not. As expensive as it may be, it is exclusive. What is your opinion? Should one seek these or flee from them?
Sorry but not the most limited SS speedmaster:
-MIR 90days: 10 pieces
-MIR 365 days: 28 pieces
-Mission set: 50 boxes made
-Speedmaster mission: 100-150 pieces
-Speedmaster Tokyo set: 55 pieces
-Portugal Special - Gene Cernan: 29 pieces
That's only SS, few more in SS&Gold/Gold/Platinum.
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