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lamkarma
·Looks like the watch is in its original state. Yeah there's a crack and discoloration but that's what i like with all its flaw rather than a heavily serviced vintage piece with aftermarket parts.
Questions regarding the Seamaster 60, reference 166.062
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masteroftime
·Lol. I added more photos. Description says unpolished but i don't know, maybe you know something i don't.
The crack in the bezel isn't the be all end all. A lot of these have cracks, but you need to judge whether you can live with it. Replacement bezel don't exist for this model. That being said, there are a few issues. The crown is wrong, the hands are wrong (or very deteriorated), the second hand is broken, and the case has definitely been polished a lot.
I think a really nice original example can be worth 2.5K to 3K to the right buyers. This one has some problems and I'm not sure the tradeoff is worth it between $1,500 for that one or camping out on ebay and paying about $500 more for a nicer one.
That being said, I think this would be an interesting candidate for an Omega factory service. I think they still have the hands and they would install the proper crown and improve the case.
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JwRosenthal
·That being said, I think this would be an interesting candidate for an Omega factory service. I think they still have the hands and they would install the proper crown and improve the case.
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masteroftime
·I agree with this- we have seen omega do some great case work on heavily polished models (or they just replace the case if available) and the cost of service hasn’t been out of line.
I'm glad I wasn't out of line for suggesting that, as I know the point is sometimes hotly debated 👍. If the dial on this watch looks nice up close, I definitely think it could be worth sending it to them.
I am curious how they would deal with the bezel or if they would decline to work on it due to unavailable parts.
I had wondered about that point as well, but I was perusing ebay 10-12 months ago, and exchanged messages with a seller who had a SM120. He had just received his watch back after it was serviced by Omega in Switzerland and he sent it without a bezel. They were seemingly still willing to service the watch. I have no first hand experience or proof, but the thought is reassuring.
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JwRosenthal
·I'm glad I wasn't out of line for suggesting that, as I know the point is sometimes hotly debated 👍. If the dial on this watch looks nice up close, I definitely think it could be worth sending it to them.
I had wondered about that point as well, but I was perusing ebay 10-12 months ago, and exchanged messages with a seller who had a SM120. He had just received his watch back after it was serviced by Omega in Switzerland and he sent it without a bezel. They were seemingly still willing to service the watch. I have no first hand experience or proof, but the thought is reassuring.
Very few people have had issue with the quality of work Omega provides- they do nice work. But their goal is to make it like new and be able to warranty the work- thus they replace parts that are as not working to spec (lume on hand and dial are supposed to glow- 50 year old lume is considered “out of spec” to them).
If I were to send this to Omega for the full Monty, I would specifically request the dial be kept original (and I would have the replacement SLN hands relumed to match the dial pips). If they can’t do that, then I would ask they return the watch.
The happy path may be to find an independent Omega authorized watchmaker (who would then have a parts account and can get the correct hands/crown etc) that you can communicate with directly and specify what the desired outcome should look like
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lamkarma
·The crack in the bezel isn't the be all end all. A lot of these have cracks, but you need to judge whether you can live with it. Replacement bezel don't exist for this model. That being said, there are a few issues. The crown is wrong, the hands are wrong (or very deteriorated), the second hand is broken, and the case has definitely been polished a lot.
I think a really nice original example can be worth 2.5K to 3K to the right buyers. This one has some problems and I'm not sure the tradeoff is worth it between $1,500 for that one or camping out on ebay and paying about $500 more for a nicer one.
That being said, I think this would be an interesting candidate for an Omega factory service. I think they still have the hands and they would install the proper crown and improve the case.
Thanks for your comment. You are absolutely spot on! The crown is wrong and the seconds hand is wrong too. Funny how i just noticed after you mentioned it. BTW I found one on Etsy with black dial and bezel parts replaced (see photo). What do you think? I didn't know the seamaster 60 came in black.
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masteroftime
·BTW I found one on Etsy with black dial and bezel parts replaced (see photo). What do you think? I didn't know the seamaster 60 came in black.
Is this from Turkey? There was an interesting "restored" SM 60 that somebody posted a month or so back that looks like this. It kept popping up in various ebay auctions.
To be honest, I am both intrigued and confused by it. The listing days "Dial, hands and bezel ring are aftermarket." But I have never seen AM parts for this reference. If they are truly aftermarket, then the quality looks to be pretty good. It might be possible that there is some miscommunication and the hands were refinished and the dial relumed, but I am unsure. I'd need to take a closer look.
Regarding the dial, I don't believe they ever made a black dial. I have seen many blue dials, which I believe to be the most common, and I have seen red dials pop up here and there. I have seen black bezels on both the blue and red models, but I had read somewhere that they may be old service replacements. You can never say never with Omega though. Hopefully someone with more insight can weigh in.
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pmontoyap
·I don’t like the watch, heavily over polished, wrong crown, broken tail in the second hand, caseback is rounded from over polishing as well. Plus the crack on the bezel.
After you are done fixing the issues you will be well over 3k. Also the fact that people ask for 3k doesn’t mean it is what the watch is worth. There is a big difference between asking price (you could ask for 10k if you want) and selling price (Normally way lower than most asking prices). Just my humble opinion
After you are done fixing the issues you will be well over 3k. Also the fact that people ask for 3k doesn’t mean it is what the watch is worth. There is a big difference between asking price (you could ask for 10k if you want) and selling price (Normally way lower than most asking prices). Just my humble opinion
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lamkarma
·Is this from Turkey? There was an interesting "restored" SM 60 that somebody posted a month or so back that looks like this. It kept popping up in various ebay auctions.
To be honest, I am both intrigued and confused by it. The listing days "Dial, hands and bezel ring are aftermarket." But I have never seen AM parts for this reference. If they are truly aftermarket, then the quality looks to be pretty good. It might be possible that there is some miscommunication and the hands were refinished and the dial relumed, but I am unsure. I'd need to take a closer look.
Regarding the dial, I don't believe they ever made a black dial. I have seen many blue dials, which I believe to be the most common, and I have seen red dials pop up here and there. I have seen black bezels on both the blue and red models, but I had read somewhere that they may be old service replacements. You can never say never with Omega though. Hopefully someone with more insight can weigh in.
Thanks again for your valuable insight, I'll keep that in mind. Yep from Turkey, he had 2 listings, one was cheaper but both came in black both had aftermarket parts. I was initially looking to buy the heritage Seamaster 300 with no date but it's a little over my budget. The Seamaster 60 seems like the next best thing as I see the collectibility aspect of it but the ones that are in good condition are imo way too overpriced esp the burgundy. The 120 on the other hand doesn't fully commit to the diver heritage look imo. I see it as the underwhelming middle child overshadowed by its siblings. Anyway guess my hunt for the perfect Seamaster continues..
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JwRosenthal
·The 120 on the other hand doesn't fully commit to the diver heritage look imo. I see it as the underwhelming middle child overshadowed by its siblings. Anyway guess my hunt for the perfect Seamaster continues..
Watch it, them’s fighting words.
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BGBC
·I've asked for additional pics, but any initial feedback or words of warning on this Seamaster 60?
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·As above you need better pics of the case, dial & movement.
Just going off that one pic the lug ends look quite rounded imo; they should be sharp and almost squared off.
Just going off that one pic the lug ends look quite rounded imo; they should be sharp and almost squared off.
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