Questions about starting a watch business that turned into a social experiment

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Well, of course 17k is a lot of money. But for me that's not a real business model. I can not live from 17k a year. My dog costs 17k a year. I should have bought that chihuahua.
Well 17k a year anywhere in the western world probably isn't a whole lotta money, but as far as investments go 17% pa is a pretty good deal.

Poochie looks like he'd keep you broke. But may save your life from a bear or cougar.
 
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Although I think pretty much everything has been said in this thread I have to say that after looking through the OP's 7 year forum post history what strikes me is that a real lot of the posts are asking for other eyes and advice on a vintage purchase or another that is being considered.

With all respect to the OP, who comes across as generally friendly and certainly with some grace, I really don't think that starting a watch business is the way to go. I'd say the absolute minimum requirement would be a very broad basis knowledge of the vintage market and different manufacturers and their collectable models over a number of decades, and also the ability to be able to very quickly identify what is incorrect or detrimental on many, many different models and references without the need for asking for advice on a watch forum.
 
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Poochie looks like he'd keep you broke. But may save your life from a bear or cougar.
You can hire him to protect your inventory. I rent him out for 17k a year
 
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You can hire him to protect your inventory. I rent him out for 17k a year
If I had a dog costing $17k / year I’d be shopping for a cat, or an Aibo. A child costing $17k / year better be getting good grades and not skiving off.
 
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I dunno Mike tyson would probably rent his tiger out for 17k a year.
 
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If I had a dog costing $17k / year I’d be shopping for a cat, or an Aibo. A child costing $17k / year better be getting good grades and not skiving off.

Probably spend $17k a year to catch one of these every few years.



Price per Kilogram is crazy if I ever worked it out.

Same as watch collecting the knowledge needed is paramount….
 
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.................

Same as watch collecting the knowledge needed is paramount, as is knowing where to find them….😉

FIFY
 
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Probably spend $17k a year to catch one of these every few years.



Price per Kilogram is crazy if I ever worked it out.

Same as watch collecting the knowledge needed is paramount….
This is why I’m vegetarian, catching potatoes is easy
 
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Probably spend $17k a year to catch one of these every few years.



Price per Kilogram is crazy if I ever worked it out.

Same as watch collecting the knowledge needed is paramount….

What kind of fish is that?

It reminds me of when I took my kids and lady on a day's mackerel fishing here in NL. I was optimistically fully prepared with two large cool boxes, filleting knives, etc. After a full day out we came back into harbour with IIRC 7 fish between the four of us 🙁. It worked out at about €230/kg for the fish 😁
 
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So far this is 5 pages of people giving you honest examples/reasons why being a watch trader is tough and the pitfalls you’ll face, along with first hand experience of new traders who started on this very forum and ended up being banned for unscrupulous practices. Then you telling people either they’re wrong or focussing in the negatives.

To take it back and start afresh to a degree, why don’t tell us what you’re high level Plan is?

How much capital are you setting aside?

Are you focussing on sales? If so vintage/used/new?

Will you sell high volume, low margin, unserviced into the trade or lower volume, higher margin by targeting buyers with money who have no experience of watches and are swayed by the experience and confidence buying from a dealer brings?

What value will you add?

Where will you source your watches?

What sales platform will you use? Online or B+M?

What are your thoughts on returns/after sales are?

Alternatively are you simply saying you’re going to be a collector who flips/sells a small number of watches a year, like many of us do, but formalises this on your tax return and with a limited company for the tax benefits? These are two hugely different things.
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You can hire him to protect your inventory. I rent him out for 17k a year

And for 18 K/Year I rent you our Director of Security, Dash. Cash upfront of course. Cheap to feed.....
 
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Probably spend $17k a year to catch one of these every few years.



Price per Kilogram is crazy if I ever worked it out.

Same as watch collecting the knowledge needed is paramount….

That looks like an ordinary Yellow Fin Carp from Europe.....
 
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That looks like an ordinary Yellow Fin Carp from Europe.....

The flavour and texture are slightly different though.

😁
 
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So far this is 5 pages of people giving you honest examples/reasons why being a watch trader is tough and the pitfalls you’ll face, along with first hand experience of new traders who started on this very forum and ended up being banned for unscrupulous practices. Then you telling people either they’re wrong or focussing in the negatives.

To take it back and start afresh to a degree, why don’t tell us what you’re high level Plan is?

How much capital are you setting aside?

Are you focussing on sales? If so vintage/used/new?

Will you sell high volume, low margin, unserviced into the trade or lower volume, higher margin by targeting buyers with money who have no experience of watches and are swayed by the experience and confidence buying from a dealer brings?

What value will you add?

Where will you source your watches?

What sales platform will you use? Online or B+M?

What are your thoughts on returns/after sales are?

Alternatively are you simply saying you’re going to be a collector who flips/sells a small number of watches a year, like many of us do, but formalises this on your tax return and with a limited company for the tax benefits? These are two hugely different things.

I'm happy with the dog pics from now and what I've learnt. Let keep it going that way. .

I don't really want any more advice, but thank you for your concern.
 
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I'm happy with the dog pics from now and what I've learnt. Let keep it going that way. .

I don't really want any more advice, but thank you for your concern.

So as I said before your comment about “sharing experiences to build a better community” wasn’t true. The thread hasn’t gone the way you hoped so you’re taking your ball home rather than trying to get back on track to create a useful thread that could be used by other in the future.
 
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So as I said before your comment about “sharing experiences to build a better community” wasn’t true. The thread hasn’t gone the way you hoped so you’re taking your ball home rather than trying to get back on track to create a useful thread that could be used by other in the future.

OK stop trolling now. This thread will be lost in obscurity soon and will just be a faint memory.
 
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OK stop trolling now. This thread will be lost in obscurity soon and will just be a faint memory.

This isn’t trolling.
You said earlier you wanted to share experiences for the benefit of everyone. It seems others have shared their experiences, you’ve shared little/nothing but haven’t got what you want so now it’s a case of, “balls to sharing for the benefit of others, this hasn’t been productive for me so let’s shut this down, regardless as to whether it could be productive for someone else”.
 
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OK stop trolling now. This thread will be lost in obscurity soon and will just be a faint memory.
Do what you think is best for you and don't ask advices!
I'm sure you have already regreted oppening this thread!
Lesson learned,move on!
Good luck with whatever you want to do!
 
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Do what you think is best for you and don't ask advices!
I'm sure you have already regreted oppening this thread!
Lesson learned,move on!
Good luck with whatever you want to do!
Thank you Mr No Name, good luck to your everyday life too.