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Question about adjusting time on the 165.024 to avoid water leaking in
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Davidt
·I’m not sure the crown has anything to do with naiad does it?
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watchyouwant
·Wrong Watchmaker. Wrong crown. You need a new stem as well, possible problem is a too short stem to securly lock it in the plate. Most of all : change Watchmaker and try to get parts of your money back from an incompetent Watchmaker, who had no access to the correct parts.
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Davidt
·"Naiad" was a design of "waterproof" crown used by Omega on a number of watches.
Used on SM300 variants and later replaced by screw down design.
Agreed but I don’t think the ‘Mercedes’ symbol on the crown indicates whether a crown was naiad or not.
I’m fairly sure there are non naiads with the symbol and as you say, certainly later 60’s naiad crowns without the aymbol.
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Dan S
·Since the crown has fallen out, can you take a good high-resolution in focus photo of the tube, so that we can see if there are threads inside. Or look with a loupe to see if there are threads inside the tube. It's important so that members can identify the correct crown.
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blubarb
··IG: #blubarb19It seems like you need change the watchmaker as well as the crown 😀
Search the forums for a recommended one.
btw, a question for the forum: Does the NAIAD crown always have a star inside the Omega logo?
https://omegaforums.net/threads/naiad-crown-for-165-024.34132/
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerThanks - I have been trying to take better pictures but my phone seems to not want to cooperate - although actually i just tried to pull out the crown very gently and the crown completely came out, meaning that the repair has failed in a record 2 days
When you look into the case tube, if there are threads inside the tube, it will look something like this:
Now this is a modern watch, but the vintage will look similar to this if it requires a screw down crown. If there are no threads inside, then it uses a standard push in crown.
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Evitzee
·Bottom line, you need a qualified watchmaker to address this, it's obvious the guy you are using isn't up to the task. You are wasting time and money reusing him.
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asdrubalex
·I've spoken to this guy and asked for an appt with the watchmaker at this stage - this is the latest reply i got:
He doesn't seem to have realised the crown might be the wrong one so i've asked to review that as well....
I have opened your work order again and spoken with the head watch maker, the last thing we can do is replace the setting lever and stem as the are too far worn.
The only problem is the parts for this movement are obsolete and we are still in the process of trying to stock them, when you drop the watch in I will give you a time frame.
I apologize that this has happened again, on a rare vintage Omega like these we try our absolute best to restore rather then replace the parts and in this case replacement is the only method.
He doesn't seem to have realised the crown might be the wrong one so i've asked to review that as well....
I have opened your work order again and spoken with the head watch maker, the last thing we can do is replace the setting lever and stem as the are too far worn.
The only problem is the parts for this movement are obsolete and we are still in the process of trying to stock them, when you drop the watch in I will give you a time frame.
I apologize that this has happened again, on a rare vintage Omega like these we try our absolute best to restore rather then replace the parts and in this case replacement is the only method.
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asdrubalex
·just out of curiosity - I know i've had enough feedback here to say that the crown looks wrong - Can anyone tell me a bit more why it looks wrong? Thanks again ! 😀
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerThe only problem is the parts for this movement are obsolete and we are still in the process of trying to stock them, when you drop the watch in I will give you a time frame.
This is completely false. Omega still makes the parts for this movement, so that tells me that this watchmaker is not Omega certified - you may want to find one that is who can order parts any time they need to, and get you the correct crown as well.
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masteroftime
·just out of curiosity - I know i've had enough feedback here to say that the crown looks wrong - Can anyone tell me a bit more why it looks wrong? Thanks again ! 😀
It doesn’t look wrong. It is wrong. It is kind of obvious from the photos you provided once you know what the correct crown is supposed to look like. The correct crown has a specific shape and the one you have doesn’t match and looks almost like a crown from a Speedmaster Mark II.
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asdrubalex
·This is completely false. Omega still makes the parts for this movement, so that tells me that this watchmaker is not Omega certified - you may want to find one that is who can order parts any time they need to, and get you the correct crown as well.
The plot thickens. I just called omega directly, and they do indeed say it is a serviceable watch with parts.
However, they said it is more likely that they told the watchmaker that they wouldn't send parts to them as with a vintage omega like that they want it go directly to Switzerland. And they asked me if I would want to send it to them lol
So... now I am stumped. I am trying to schedule an appointment with the watchmaker directly because I want to look them in the eye and get the real information from them and go in with armed information.
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Dan S
·The plot thickens. I just called omega directly, and they do indeed say it is a serviceable watch with parts.
However, they said it is more likely that they told the watchmaker that they wouldn't send parts to them as with a vintage omega like that they want it go directly to Switzerland. And they asked me if I would want to send it to them lol
So... now I am stumped. I am trying to schedule an appointment with the watchmaker directly because I want to look them in the eye and get the real information from them and go in with armed information.
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerThe plot thickens. I just called omega directly, and they do indeed say it is a serviceable watch with parts.
However, they said it is more likely that they told the watchmaker that they wouldn't send parts to them as with a vintage omega like that they want it go directly to Switzerland. And they asked me if I would want to send it to them lol
So... now I am stumped. I am trying to schedule an appointment with the watchmaker directly because I want to look them in the eye and get the real information from them and go in with armed information.
I'm not sure who you spoke with at Omega, but the parts are readily available to any Omega certified watchmaker.
I can order any part for that movement with a click of my mouse this morning on the Omega Extranet, and have the parts at my shop by Wednesday...
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asdrubalex
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Yes - that makes sense now. I didn't realise they weren't omega certified given that they do service rolex and omega from their website and they were recommended to me buy a watch maker friend of mine.
I think I'm going to have to try and get my money back from these people. they just called me back to say that they can't meet with me directly
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asdrubalex
·I'm not sure who you spoke with at Omega, but the parts are readily available to any Omega certified watchmaker.
I can order any part for that movement with a click of my mouse this morning on the Omega Extranet, and have the parts at my shop by Wednesday...
I assume Omega extranet is only available to omega certified shops?
I called in to the service dept at omega - that seems to be their line for older, vintage watches. probably they want to get more work in house? I did assume it might be some commercial initiative
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerI think I'm going to have to try and get my money back from these people. they just called me back to say that they can't meet with me directly
If you don't want to give the name of the business, that's fine. But their refusal to let you meet with the watchmaker makes me wonder what kind of business this is. Is it some sort of jeweler, or a place that is specifically and only for watch repair? It almost sounds to me as if they are sending the watch out to someone that is doing trade work - when this happens they will never let you meet the actual watchmaker, because then you will realize that you can go directly to that watchmaker and cut them out as the middle man.
I assume Omega extranet is only available to omega certified shops?
Yes, it's not available to anyone who doesn't either work for Omega, or is Omega certified.
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