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Question about adjusting time on the 165.024 to avoid water leaking in

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Hi guys,

I have an Omega Seamster 165.024 (calibre 552) that was my grandfather's.

When my dad gave it to me, the crown was broken and would pull out completely - I got it serviced and fixed at a reputable watch maker (came recommended)

about 5 months later, the crown issue represented itself. It was under warranty so I had it checked out, and the guy said that a small amount of moisture managed to get in and rusted the clutch part which caused the crown to come out again. I did ask how it any moisture get in there - generally i am careful, i don't shower with it etc (i might wash dishes from time to time, but i asked my dad and apparently my grandfather used to swim with it with no issues) - He watchmaker sort of said, oh if some water remained it might have seeped

Anyway the part etc was restored - and I told my dad about it. According to him, after you set the time, you don't just click back but you have to 'screw it' when clicked in clockwise to make sure it's properly water tight, which in fairness I was not doing. Is this right?

Could I have been doing the wrong thing when adjusting the time and is this what caused water to seep in? Any advise welcome (ps - the watchmaker did test it and it's at the very least waterproof at 5atm - i was a bit surprised he didn't test it a higher pressure)

It is a treasured present that I want to keep in good condition as long as I can!

anyways, thanks!
 
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Have you got a picture? There are two types of crown for this watch - one push in, one screw in. If yours was a screw in, you’d probably know about it.

Sounds the like watchmaker fobbed you off and didn’t fix the issue during service.

Obviously over the years, cases can get varying degrees of pitting and re-using vintage crowns, crystals etc impairs water resistance, but generally, if the seals are renewed, the case condition is ok and you’re careful around moisture, I wouldn’t expect moisture ingress to cause issues.
 
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Have you got a picture? There are two types of crown for this watch - one push in, one screw in. If yours was a screw in, you’d probably know about it.

Sounds the like watchmaker fobbed you off and didn’t fix the issue during service.

Obviously over the years, cases can get varying degrees of pitting and re-using vintage crowns, crystals etc impairs water resistance, but generally, if the seals are renewed, the case condition is ok and you’re careful around moisture, I wouldn’t expect moisture ingress to cause issues.

Hi David! thanks for the the reply - Photos attached - I know on this forum there was some doubts as to whether this was the correct crown - but the watchmaker says it was when i took it in? (maybe he doesn't know too much about it) - But I did ask him to confirm that it was and said it was.
 
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If you have a screw in crown, screw it in..... The seals are different to the push in only crown.
 
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If you have a screw in crown, screw it in..... The seals are different to the push in only crown.

Thank you - yes - I was just hoping to get some clarify on how to tell the difference on here!
 
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Thank you - yes - I was just hoping to get some clarify on how to tell the difference on here!
When the crown is fully pulled out, does the tube into the case have a thread like a machine screw, or is the tube bit just a plain surface?
 
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Looks like the dial and hands at least have been replaced by modern service items. Perhaps the case has too.

can you show a picture of the crown take from above. It’s hard to see from your photos.
 
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Looks like the dial and hands at least have been replaced by modern service items. Perhaps the case has too.

can you show a picture of the crown take from above. It’s hard to see from your photos.

There you go! any better?

Yes, hands and dial are service parts, the bezel is original AFAIK. I think the case was the same too
 
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When the crown is fully pulled out, does the tube into the case have a thread like a machine screw, or is the tube bit just a plain surface?

This is the crown when fully pulled out when it was all coming out!
 
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This is the crown when fully pulled out when it was all coming out!
In fairness, I didn't check how it looks inside the case....
 
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Dial and hans are service replacements, bezel is original part.
It seems like the crown is not from this model.
Would give it to somebody, who is able to get the correct part.
Btw, the SD case tube has internal thread, so you wont see anything when crown is pulled.
 
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Sorry I meant a plan view of the crown.

The pictures below show push in (naiad - top) and screw in (bottom). You crown initially looked like a screw in but now I’m thinking it’s just an incorrect push in version.
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Dial and hans are service replacements, bezel is original part.
It seems like the crown is not from this model.
Would give it to somebody, who is able to get the correct part.
Btw, the SD case tube has internal thread, so you wont see anything when crown is pulled.

Thanks - I have been trying to take better pictures but my phone seems to not want to cooperate - although actually i just tried to pull out the crown very gently and the crown completely came out, meaning that the repair has failed in a record 2 days
 
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Sorry I meant a plan view of the crown.

The pictures below show push in (naiad - top) and screw in (bottom). You crown initially looked like a screw in but now I’m thinking it’s just an incorrect push in version.
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Apologies David! attaching now
 
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D...............
Btw, the SD case tube has internal thread, so you wont see anything when crown is pulled.

Doh! I've been working on about five Seiko divers for the last two weeks. Forgot all about the crowns in my 300 and Baby Ploprof.

:whipped:
 
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Just one very dumb question - If it's not the correct crown for the model then I assume it is more likely to not function correctly / cause the issues that I have been experiencing?
 
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Just one very dumb question - If it's not the correct crown for the model then I assume it is more likely to not function correctly / cause the issues that I have been experiencing?
Correct.
 
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According to him, after you set the time, you don't just click back but you have to 'screw it' when clicked in clockwise to make sure it's properly water tight, which in fairness I was not doing. Is this right?

Yep. if it's a wind in crown, then has to be pushed in and screwed tight to prevent water ingress. And don't set the time or wind it while on the wrist as that may bend the crown shaft.
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It’s not the correct crown for the model, but it’s hard to tell from the photos if your case tube is for a screw down crown or naiad crown. You’ll need to ascertain that before you can get the correct crown.
Can you see a thread on the inside of the case tube?
 
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It seems like you need change the watchmaker as well as the crown 😀
Search the forums for a recommended one.

btw, a question for the forum: Does the NAIAD crown always have a star inside the Omega logo?
 
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