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Pusher removal tool for Mark II?

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So I was scrolling along at a Japanese auction site where I have purchased many Seikos from the early 70’s and came across a sad looking Omega Mark II.

I have a soft spot for watches that need some love. Here it clearly needs a new crystal (turns out I have a spare and thanks to this forum a good strategy to fabricate a jig for install).

I put in a low bid, had a short back and forth and ended up “winning” this project.

Research shows the broker pusher replacement is part number 086ST0005. I have also seen pn 086ST0059 for the Moon watch might work but about 1mm longer but otherwise has the same dimensions (but would literally stick out). I’ll get an 0005.

What I don’t have a line on is the tool to remove the threaded piece. I’d rather not get a Bergeron unless it is my only option, but if that’s what is needed then that’s what I’ll get. Curious though about sets that would have the different sizes to deal with screw in pushers for other speedmaster (reduced and classic moon).

Any recommendations re a specific tool/tool seller?

Once this gets up and running it will likely be a daily dare I say beater Omega either for me or my son. Movement overhaul is of course on the list, but may be my first omega I overhaul myself depending on what sort of shape the movement is in when it arrives and how much moisture the movement has been exposed to….

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I don’t have experience with this one, but this comes up with a Google search for a cheap option.

https://www.topwatchparts.com/products/steel-screwdriver-for-omega-speedmaster-chronograph-watch-button-pusher-tube?currency=USD&variant=31919042887750&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Google Shopping&stkn=3dfbb8e1b535&utm_source=GoogleAds&utm_medium=CPC&utm_campaign=19875987579&utm_content={creatives}&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=20344723338&gbraid=0AAAAApbO2E9s_YhJW2y4rQOgvfNxFYzdY&gclid=CjwKCAjwpcTNBhA5EiwAdO1S9pspzAOltZkVRA9ZtpQcpYLsLcyhY8WXMOQ7E3nBieTrXJV3dfF_6BoC24sQAvD_BwE

Bergeon 5901-P27 will be a proper tool for this pusher tube.
https://www.ofrei.com/page576.html
Thanks. The topwatch tool looks like the one they sell on amazon as well. Says for 175 series not a 145 with a cal 861, so I wasn’t so sure it would fit.

Amazon also has a few tool kits with multiple heads, like this one https://a.co/d/07Fp0TNp but not sure if the tooling aligns?

I should add that I think the 3.65 is the right size, but not positive
 
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3.65 is the correct size for this tube. I can only speak to the Bergeon tool and that is spec’ed for 3.65.

also note that when removing if it is stubborn, heat up the area before over torquing and shearing the tube.
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3.65 is the correct size for this tube. I can only speak to the Bergeon tool and that is spec’ed for 3.65.

also note that when removing if it is stubborn, hear up area before over torquing and shearing the tube.
Many thanks.

I will likely wait until the watch arrives and I have sourced a replacement pusher and then try out the Amazon kit to see if it comes w a 3.65.
 
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Yesterday I had a corroded pusher tube that sheared away the keying facets on a light twist.
The shear went deep enough that I couldn't really cut a slot into the remaining material and use a flat driver, so I filed down the sides of a flathead driver so it had a centering "finger" that went into the tube and had the remaining flat head hips to grab the remaining side of the pusher tube.
Something like this:
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Heat up up area a bit and presto! I hope everything goes well with the removal and if not maybe this process might help. 😀
 
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Yesterday I had a corroded pusher tube that sheared away the keying facets on a light twist.
The shear went deep enough that I couldn't really cut a slot into the remaining material and use a flat driver, so I filed down the sides of a flathead driver so it had a centering "finger" that went into the tube and had the remaining flat head hips to grab the remaining side of the pusher tube.
Something like this:
1773246346739.webp

Heat up up area a bit and presto! I hope everything goes well with the removal and if not maybe this process might help. 😀
Thanks. Very helpful. I was a bit concerned about the loctite on the threads and was wondering about heating with a hair dryer before trying to remove.
 
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Found the proper pusher so the easy part of this is done. I’ll wait for either the part or the watch to arrive and then order the set linked above from Amazon to see if it includes the right bit. If not, I’ll be fancy w a world class seldom used tool on my bench….

While I wait for the watch to make its way to the intermediary in Japan I am going to look for something there with a functional cal 625 I can swap into a watch my wife loves but needs an overhaul badly. I’m a long way away from tinkering w tiny movements and this could be money well spent on domestic tranquility 😂 Always more than a few pending projects.
 
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Yesterday I had a corroded pusher tube that sheared away the keying facets on a light twist.
The shear went deep enough that I couldn't really cut a slot into the remaining material and use a flat driver, so I filed down the sides of a flathead driver so it had a centering "finger" that went into the tube and had the remaining flat head hips to grab the remaining side of the pusher tube.
Something like this:
1773246346739.webp

Heat up up area a bit and presto! I hope everything goes well with the removal and if not maybe this process might help. 😀
And might I add that is some beautiful millwork
 
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Found the proper pusher so the easy part of this is done. I’ll wait for either the part or the watch to arrive and then order the set linked above from Amazon to see if it includes the right bit. If not, I’ll be fancy w a world class seldom used tool on my bench….

While I wait for the watch to make its way to the intermediary in Japan I am going to look for something there with a functional cal 625 I can swap into a watch my wife loves but needs an overhaul badly. I’m a long way away from tinkering w tiny movements and this could be money well spent on domestic tranquility 😂 Always more than a few pending projects.
where are you located?
 
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I believe this tool will work - have one ordered from a private seller. Due to be delivered early next week!

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it does not look like the default configuration of the Horotec pusher tube tool comes with the correct die for the 145.022 but they are available. (as yours is coming from a private seller, not sure what dies it comes with. could very well come with the correct one).

@Rhinoww one thing you could do is just buy a die from Horotec @ 30$s and build something to hold it. Very possible you could get a clone of the holder.

They sell a P27 die https://www.esslinger.com/horotec-dies-to-fit-screw-on-watch-pushers-push-buttons-choose-size/
 
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