Professional 'Red' Racing at Bonhams today

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dsstephens

·Dec 12, 2024

edit w link https://www.bonhams.com/auction/291...-dial-ref-145012-purchased-2nd-december-1969/

Edited: Dec 12, 2024

 

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Aludic

·Dec 12, 2024·@SpeedyBirthYear

A full set vintage Racing Speedy is about as close to grail territory any watch can get. Amazing piece and surprised to see it getting sold at this (starting?) price.

 

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140dave

·Dec 12, 2024

Yup, that's my ultimate exit piece. Maybe one day (sigh)
Congrats to the buyer, hope he/she is here and will show it off when it arrives.

 

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watchlovr

·Dec 12, 2024

Purchased in Hamilton, Scotland.
Where I live!
I wonder what the jewellers was?

 

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paddymoran

·Dec 12, 2024

The backstory/ providence is fantastic.

 

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pitbos

·Dec 12, 2024

I'm really (really!) hoping someone here got this. Yes, to keep it in the OF family...but selfishly because I want to see more photos!

 

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watchlovr

·Dec 12, 2024

The two jewelers I know were Hendersons and Anthony Karpe.
Might have been others I don’t remember.

 

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td69

·Dec 13, 2024

watchlovr

Purchased in Hamilton, Scotland.
Where I live!
I wonder what the jewellers was?

If I read it correctly, it's R.A. Roxburgh, Hamilton

 

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Clelow

·Dec 13, 2024

Gorgeous Watch. It would, no doubt, be a center-piece for many collections.

 

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JetLinks

·Dec 17, 2024

Phenomenal watch! Shame about the condition! I guess the new owner will no doubt give it a good clean.

 

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Spacefruit

·Dec 17, 2024·Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder

I viewed this watch - Bonhams have a record of bringing private watches direct to market.

This watch was typical of this. One family owner, with original documents.

The condition was lovely. No shame - it proves provenance.

Dare i say I think it was cheap. I have seen them sell for double this.

I cannot decide which version is more valuable. This one, the Professional version with painted logo, has a unique dial plate with smaller subdials and subdial hands.

However, I think the Non-Pro might be more valuable.

 

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Deafboy

·Dec 17, 2024·His Holiness Puer Surdus

Spacefruit

However, I think the Non-Pro might be more valuable.

Curious to know why, could you elaborate?

 

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Spacefruit

·Dec 18, 2024·Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder

Deafboy

Curious to know why, could you elaborate?

While I like the Pro for its rare dial plate, some older, even older than me, reckon the old style non pro dial is more desirable as it follows the early dial style print layout

Edited: Dec 18, 2024

 

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MCC

·Dec 18, 2024

Somlo have one without box and papers at £70k so £51k including buyers premium seems like a fair price.

 

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td69

·Dec 18, 2024

No ill will intended here, the subject lot doesn't come with the 145.012 case back which is only disclosed when inquiring about. Unfortunately the condition report does not specify this anomaly either.

Personally I would try to bid on it given the impeccable provenance, but what put me off IMHO is the incorrect white chrono hand. I believe the Red Racing Speedmaster should be fit with the same type of chrono hand (painted in white) as with that of the Ultraman, of which the serial number of this watch is in the range.

 

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Risto

·Dec 18, 2024

Spacefruit

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I cannot decide which version is more valuable. This one, the Professional version with painted logo, has a unique dial plate with smaller subdials and subdial hands.
However, I think the Non-Pro might be more valuable.

My logic with these is that non-pro is better, because it's cleaner design. But, they are both fantastic! Do they beat Alaska III though... 😁