Private sales...member comments.

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Thoughts?

I think it would be more appropriate to mine the listings yourself, and then use private messaging to ask for opinions.
 
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When I was a new member, I would trawl the FS section and look at the likes a watch got in the posting- then look up seller and see their history, then those who liked the watch as to ascertain their credibility on the forum- that was usually all I needed to know.

I ALWAYS look at who 'likes' a posting. There are number of members here whose opinion I value very highly.
 
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I think it would be more appropriate to mine the listings yourself, and then use private messaging to ask for opinions.

Perhaps, but honestly my suggestion wasn't as self serving as all that. I am not looking for others to do my homework to point me in the direction of an absolute grail. There are Collectors on here with deep pockets, and years of experience who will instantly snap up the special pieces. I was more thinking that a thread might highlight the plucky underdog pieces that are languishing, and help shift them to the benefit of all involved - but particularly the community.

But look, I am naive it seems. The idea has been gently discouraged by the Wits of OF as a recipe for 🍿.
 
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The idea has been gently discouraged by the Wits of OF as a recipe for

well all is not lost. comments are allowed in the sales posts and quite a few interesting watches selling for short money are positively commented on.
 
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I was wondering if there'd be any fun in a thread asking members to nominate the watch currently available in the sales forums members would buy if they could - but can't currently because of liquidity issues, objections from herself/himself, import fees, 200 post limit, already own eight speedys, and so on.

So these issues aside (price discussion being prohibited), which watch would be their first pic? And why?

It might be a fun way to shill for watches that have been overlooked. Give a friendly boost/visibility to fond members offerings. Help liquid members on the hunt for their next purchase zero in on a score.

There are members here I think it would be facinating to know which watch would be their pick.

It could get ugly, and might be risky, especially if there is blatant shilling, or snarky comments about high prices. Or it could be a fun way of serving both sellers and buyers alike.

Thoughts?

There is about 3-4 watches I would buy right now if the prices were realistically priced by the sellers 😗
 
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Perhaps, but honestly my suggestion wasn't as self serving as all that. I am not looking for others to do my homework to point me in the direction of an absolute grail. There are Collectors on here with deep pockets, and years of experience who will instantly snap up the special pieces. I was more thinking that a thread might highlight the plucky underdog pieces that are languishing, and help shift them to the benefit of all involved - but particularly the community.

But look, I am naive it seems. The idea has been gently discouraged by the Wits of OF as a recipe for 🍿.
If you watch the sales posts, you will notice that some watches get bumped by other members (myself included) that are great watches being sold by great members, at very reasonable prices- but for some reason they have languished most likely because the veteran collectors have something similar or in slightly better condition and the newbies think that the they can score a better deal on Ebay for $8 less
One of our incredibly well respected member (from whom many of us have purchased watches) had two down right steals for sale, but they had minor cosmetic issues- nothing that would detract from being daily wearers. Despite having watches of my own that were similar, I was tempted just to snatch them up since they were such a deal. I even steered another member via PM towards one who finally bought it.

Watch the sales forum and notice the likes and bumps by other members- there is a logic akin to what you are asking about...it's subtle, but it's there.
 
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What about the type of comment « If I had the funds, I would be all over this »,
« this won’t last long before it is sold », ... posted by friends. I sometimes feel it could be misleading or inappropriate advertising.
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Totally agree ! "If I had the funds, I would be all over this" , it does not make any sense at all
 
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Totally agree ! "If I had the funds, I would be all over this" , it does not make any sense at all
I’m guilty of that one- I dont see it as a shill, just complimenting a nice “value” that’s out of my league. Agreed, it doesn’t add anything to the post.
 
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Should Trash Gorden have declared that redial on his 2577? Discuss.

He seems to sell a lot of watches, I would have thought he would have noticed.

EDIT: It has been ascertained I should have used the term service dial rather than redial, assuming we agree it looks like a factory replacement rather than a D Bill etc repaint.
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Should Trash Gorden have declared that redial on his 2577? Discuss.

He seems to sell a lot of watches, I would have thought he would have noticed.
Is it a redial?
 
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Is it a redial?

Am 99% sure it’s a modern factory replacement dial. I’ll post a pic of my original 2577-6 later but there are subtle font differences and that style of stick index wasn’t often (ever?) seen in the originals, that’s more a late 60s design.
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Am 99% sure it’s a modern factory replacement dial. I’ll post a pic of my original 2577-6 later but there are subtle font differences and that style of stock index wasn’t often (ever?) seen in the originals.
So what do you mean by a redial? That the dial has been replaced by a factory original? I’m confused
 
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So what do you mean by a redial? That the dial has been replaced by a factory original? I’m confused
The word redial is used to mean a dial that has been changed in some way. That dial is I believe a modern genuine factory replacement, not a dial repainted by a third party (which is also referred to as a redial). Whichever, it is something that should IMO be declared when selling a watch on a collector forum (or anywhere really) since it materially affects collector desirability and value. Many eBay watches are undeclared (or unrecognised) redials. A seller on here should know.
 
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The word redial is used to mean a dial that has been changed in some way. That dial is I believe a modern genuine factory replacement, not a dial repainted by a third party (which is also referred to as a redial). Whichever, it is something that should IMO be declared when selling a watch on a collector forum (or anywhere really) since it materially affects collector desirability and value. Many eBay watches are undeclared (or unrecognised) redials. A seller on here should know.
I've never seen a replacement dial referred to as a redial. They're usually referred to as a replacement dial or a service dial.
 
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Am 99% sure it’s a modern factory replacement dial. I’ll post a pic of my original 2577-6 later but there are subtle font differences and that style of stick index wasn’t often (ever?) seen in the originals, that’s more a late 60s design.

Definitely not the original dial. Logo is the newer type too, it would have been the old one with a 12mil serial number.
 
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I've never seen a replacement dial referred to as a redial. They're usually referred to as a replacement dial or a service dial.

Yes. When I read “redial”, I understand it to mean a refinished dial. Not a service/replacement dial.
 
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I've never seen a replacement dial referred to as a redial. They're usually referred to as a replacement dial or a service dial.
I have seen them used interchangeably where there is some certainty the dial has been altered or swapped but uncertainty over how or by whom but you make a fair point. For my earlier comment read service dial.

Regardless or the exact status, what really matters is that it isn’t original any longer.
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The word redial is used to mean a dial that has been changed in some way. That dial is I believe a modern genuine factory replacement, not a dial repainted by a third party (which is also referred to as a redial). Whichever, it is something that should IMO be declared when selling a watch on a collector forum (or anywhere really) since it materially affects collector desirability and value. Many eBay watches are undeclared (or unrecognised) redials. A seller on here should know.
Redial ... Repainted by a third party..Some are good and some are awful
Service Dial ... Factory replacement...Depends on the brand how much value erodes.
Factory Redial ... A refinished dial by the factory (VC/JLC/Patek mostly) ... These are dammed good usually.

In all cases they should be disclosed by seller.
 
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I do share some of this point which is why I, as of late, ask for constructive comments only and ask other comments be sent to me through PM. If the comment is relevant then I myself will post it.

Specially comments such as : “ you’re crazy to sell this at $xxxxx it’s worth much less!!!” Or “I think it’s a fake or not genuine or has replacement hands... but I’m not sure.... anyone else?” Unless you “know” in which case it’s a legitimate remark, “thinking “ something out loud can harm a sale. If you PM me I’ll look into it and if you’re right I’ll amend the sale with the information.

This said the tenor of this forum is somewhat exceptional and specially senior members seldom have anything damaging to say, and often have true legitimate observations to share. That’s why there’s is a high level of quality and consistency on the sales offerings.
Exactly! I experienced this once here. Several people thought i bought a watch for too high of a price. In the end they confessed they had not "watched the market" recently. It's definitely more polite to stay silent with your concerns, unless you KNOW what you're talking about. Or are at least certain to know.
 
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You know its odd, I am buying a watch that has sat unsold for months on this forum with no comments, and people that know the watch think its a good deal... Its just a very under the radar watch that takes a long time to hunt and gather information on... So while lots of people love how they look and they are attractively priced, people don't take the time to learn and hunt.

Just saying...
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