Pre Globemaster ?

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skand

·Jan 8, 2022

Hi all.


I have my own theory about this watch, but I'm asking for opinions on what you guys think about it. Movement Bumper cal 352, isn't it a pre Globemaster ?

I have

 

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kyle L

·Jan 8, 2022·Grasshopper

Maybe closer to a Pre-Seamaster rather than a Pre-Globemaster, but overall it's a nice French Case 352.

 

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MtV

·Jan 8, 2022

Looks like a 2577 case, serial is just early enough for it to not have the Seamaster name on the dial yet, so that would also match. And so does the crown, it seems?

 

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jantjewgm

·Jan 8, 2022

Looks almost identical to the early seamasters

 

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Dr No

·Jan 8, 2022

Ref 2520?

Note the close movement number.

Art

 

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MtV

·Jan 8, 2022

Dr No

Ref 2520?

Note the close movement number.

Art

Ha, didn’t think of that ref. Does yours say Seamaster on the dial? The OPs watch is certainly right at the edge of that change, I have a 12278xxx serial 2520 listed as one that carried the model name.

 

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hoipolloi

·Jan 8, 2022

You can find some in here, and some in here have Seamaster on dial, too.

https://omegaforums.net/threads/fab-suisse-roll-call.20625/

 

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skand

·Jan 8, 2022

Thank you sincerely gentlemen for putting me on the right track. This is a Seamaster cal 352 for the French market from 1952-53. I have one more request, how much would you give for it if you were buying it. That it is nice is not disputable?

 

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ConElPueblo

·Jan 9, 2022

As @kyle L says, it is a French cased Omega, so it wouldn't have a reference number even though it has a case similar to Swiss made Omegas. I'd say it has a value slightly lower than a similar 2521 (if it is a 36mm model which it looks like). Subtract a bit more of the equivalent Swiss model has "Seamaster" on the dial.

 

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skand

·Jan 9, 2022

Thanks @ConElPueblo, You gave me an idea of the prices. Only the seller doesn't want to compromise because for him this Seamaster is rare and he wants a lot more. My explanations that it is rare and harder to sell don't help. I will not write how much he wants for it, because he reads this forum. We got a little closer to the price.

 

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hoipolloi

·Jan 9, 2022

I paid 2160€ plus shipping and tax for mine last year.
Reason I bought it? Rose gold and 352 movement.
And it is 34mm, not 36mm.

 

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MtV

·Jan 9, 2022

hoipolloi

I paid 2160€ plus shipping and tax for mine last year.
Reason I bought it? Rose gold and 352 movement.
And it is 34mm, not 36mm.

Are you really gonna make us ask before posting a picture? 😁

 

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ConElPueblo

·Jan 9, 2022

skand

Thanks @ConElPueblo, You gave me an idea of the prices. Only the seller doesn't want to compromise because for him this Seamaster is rare and he wants a lot more. My explanations that it is rare and harder to sell don't help. I will not write how much he wants for it, because he reads this forum. We got a little closer to the price.

Prices and whether or not they are reasonable is a hugely subjective deal. How much is the seller asking?

 

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skand

·Jan 9, 2022

ConElPueblo

Prices and whether or not they are reasonable is a hugely subjective deal. How much is the seller asking?

At first it was about 4k Euro, now it is more favorable for me. I actually prefer the Connie line more, I already have a Centenary, 2517 "plank dial" the first Connie 2648, several Pie Pan, and this watch from the dial reminded me of a pre Globemaster 14311. That's why I started talking about buying it. The seller had a realtor show it to me, but had no idea what the watch was. If the deal doesn't happen, tough, the Seamaster interests me less.

 

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cristos71

·Jan 9, 2022

I'm not feeling it at all anywhere near €4K, in this condition and with this dial I think more around €2-€2,5K.

I paid significantly less than 3K for this one, but that was 4 or 5 years ago now, so possibly not that relevant today although these ref's haven't seen the stratospheric price rises we see elsewhere.

 

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skand

·Jan 9, 2022

Also the 4K euro price tag was strange to me when I found out it was a Seamaster in a French case. If it was anything before Connie I would have given that kind of money for, say, a 2914 cal 352RG.

 

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cristos71

·Jan 9, 2022

Personally I don't value these 18kt French 352 ref's and the French Connie ref's lower than the Swiss equivalents. The weight, design and build quality are just as good as the Swiss cased versions and together with the different dial text they can make for a nice niche collection.

Edited: Jan 9, 2022

 

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hoipolloi

·Jan 9, 2022

cristos71

Personally I don't value these 18kt French 352 ref's and the French Connie ref's lower than the Swiss equivalents. The weight, design and build quality are just as good as the Swiss cases versions and together with the different dial text they can make for a nice niche collection.

Absolutely correct. Own it then appreciate it.

 

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skand

·Jan 9, 2022

It's not about quality, it's about wanting to get everything that Connie is associated with. If there was a Globemaster in that French case, for example, I don't know that I would logically analyze the price.

 

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ConElPueblo

·Jan 9, 2022

The seller will have to wait a long time for someone to agree with a near 4k asking price.