Possible Unique Vintage Omega?

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Kippy

·Aug 8, 2020

Hello there Experts
I have been offered this allegedly "unique" Cal 420 Omega - it is a 33mm, solid 14k Gold case and apparently there is no others like it around - the interesting thing about is the antimagnetic cover.
It has a black dial which is stated as 100% original (is that true do you think) - looks beautiful but I cannot see any "Swiss Made" at the bottom edge of the dial?
The Seller (who recently passed away RIP) cannot be asked questions so I am dealing with his lovely daughter who has given me written permission to post this Thread and the photos.
Is the watch all it is cracked up to be?
Looking forward

to your expert comments and feedback!
Many thanks in advance.

 

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efauser

·Aug 8, 2020

Thank you for posting 2 dozen of the same photos.

 

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Dan S

·Aug 8, 2020

If it's truly unique, then it's going to be difficult for anyone except for Omega to tell you with certainty. The best we can do is say whether or not it looks plausible. Who exactly is claiming that the watch is unique? The daughter? Is she an expert? What is "Hobart Town Antique Jewelry"?

 

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apsm100

·Aug 8, 2020·Noob taxpayer

So its listed here. The description sounds wildly over the top and bogus but I have no clue.

edit: removed link

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Scarecrow Boat

·Aug 8, 2020

“Description
This Super Rare Omega 420Cal Anti Magnetic Cover 14ct Gold Case is not only a stunningly handsome watch …….. it is also a genuinely rare vintage watch & with a 100% guaranteed description as well!

Yet let me assure you from the ‘get go’ ~ This Is one rare & handsome watch , without a doubt!

This Bespoke & 100% Original 14ct gold gents vintage Omega belongs in the reference books & perhaps an “unmentioned” predecessor to the famous Railmaster with it’s anti magnetic case yet Cal; 420 movement ??, Was this is very small prototype release ……. some 6 or so years Before the Railmaster ~ a prototype??! Or a totally unrelated model? One thing is for sure , I can’t find any the same!!”

It’s bespoke, rare, and important. All the qualifications have been met with this over hyped description.

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airansun

·Aug 8, 2020

Given the caseback number and the serial number, I’m guessing the movement and the case didn’t leave the factory together.

(Typically, 40’s Omegas have a caseback serial number instead of a reference number and that caseback serial number is always higher than the movement serial number, right?)

 

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Dan S

·Aug 8, 2020

Hopefully the antimagnetic cover is iron, and just gold plated. A solid gold dust cover wouldn't help very much with magnetism.

 

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Foo2rama

·Aug 8, 2020·Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...

14k case made by Omega? I guess not that rare for the period... I see a few others with a slightly differnt case and 14k (even a 9k??)

Watch circa 1950 not for the US market.

No swiss made...

Dial looks a little early in style for a 1950's watch that is more mid 40's and earlier, not out of the question though, but you tended to see more detail on post war watches.

Same case in steel? and crown here
https://artworth.ch/product/omega-cal-420/

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watchyouwant

·Aug 8, 2020

Hmm...., Bespoke....Hobart.....the Tasmanian Devil springs to mind. Too rare. Once in a lifetime....tell them to keep it. Too Rare..... Kind regards. Achim

 

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ConElPueblo

·Aug 8, 2020

Ahh, Hobart Town Jeweller's...

https://omegaforums.net/threads/mis-information-abounds.27326/

 

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Dan S

·Aug 8, 2020

Well, it does seem to be a Spillman Case. Putting aside the ridiculous description, it's worth a hard look. Price is ridiculous of course, but I'm not ready to say it's fake.

 

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X350 XJR

·Aug 8, 2020·Vintage Omega Aficionado

Hyper hyperbole...

So it has a dust-cover big deal.

A 33mm 14K Omega for $2600, yeah right!

 

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Kippy

·Aug 8, 2020

efauser

Thank you for posting 2 dozen of the same photos.

Apologies for that your deep sarcasm is noted with huge appreciation.

 

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aprax

·Aug 8, 2020

Looks a bit like a 2690, those had dust covers. Here's an example:
https://www.blackbough.co.uk/omega-...watch-with-honeycomb-dial-and-centre-seconds/

 

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Kippy

·Aug 8, 2020

X350 XJR

Hyper hyperbole...

So it has a dust-cover big deal.

A 33mm 14K Omega for $2600, yeah right!

AUD 2600 but you knew that right? And open to Offers ... all I was trying to do was find some more Info many thanks.

 

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Kippy

·Aug 8, 2020

aprax

Looks a bit like a 2690, those had dust covers. Here's an example:
https://www.blackbough.co.uk/omega-...watch-with-honeycomb-dial-and-centre-seconds/

Valid observation many thanks

 

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Kippy

·Aug 8, 2020

Dan S

Well, it does seem to be a Spillman Case. Putting aside the ridiculous description, it's worth a hard look. Price is ridiculous of course, but I'm not ready to say it's fake.

Thanks Dan - open to Offers and thanks for the objective response.

 

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Kippy

·Aug 8, 2020

watchyouwant

Hmm...., Bespoke....Hobart.....the Tasmanian Devil springs to mind. Too rare. Once in a lifetime....tell them to keep it. Too Rare..... Kind regards. Achim

Interesting response many thanks ... not sure what the repetition of "too rare" is supposed to mean but thanks anyway.

 

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Dan S

·Aug 8, 2020

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Interesting response many thanks ... not sure what the repetition of "too rare" is supposed to mean but thanks anyway.

There are many serious collectors on this site, including Achim, and the exaggerated description of that watch, especially with words like "rare" and "prototype" tend to provoke strongly negative reactions and great skepticism. Such descriptions are almost always very bad signs about a seller, and typically cause us to look away immediately. Not only is the hyperbole offensive, but a claim of uniqueness basically means that one can't verify the watch by doing research. 99% of the time, a unique watch is not legit.

However, you would be buying the watch, not the seller, and there's always the possibility that there could be a decent watch hiding behind an obnoxious description. And occasionally rare watches are real.

 

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OmegaP99

·Aug 8, 2020

ConElPueblo

Ahh, Hobart Town Jeweller's...

https://omegaforums.net/threads/mis-information-abounds.27326/

So he's been pedaling this thing for 5-years now? I had to read all his posts too, the best was explaining the reason for his poor grammar was because he has a job AND a home, then suggested we all try to do a day's work and see if we can still spell afterwards. Legendary.