Possible new 300m spotted on Daniel Craig

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I’d agree with you on wishlist though, 40mm and color options like the current gens would be an automatic buy for me.

I covered my wishlist many pages ago with a render, and I still stand by all of it! Some posters reckoned tapering the bracelet would look weird but I don't really see why personally, a 1mm taper to the outer links only should not be a big issue.

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Felt inspired, and since I actually quite enjoyed making those renders the other day, here's one (probably) final one - my dream fifth gen Seamaster concept. Changes made to current fourth gen:

  • Reduced HEV length. I don't think it should be removed because it's part of the model's identity, but it should be smaller like the earlier gens.
  • Tapered the Bond bracelet, from 20 mm lug width to 18 mm at clasp. A 1 mm reduction per outermost link would be subtle but effective.
  • Used the 60th anniversary first gen wave dial to clean it up, but kept the fourth gen red accent to keep it modern, and the date wheel to keep it competitive. But I'd like to see date and no date options, frankly. Also, kept the fourth gen low dome crystal. I love the big dome on the heritage models, but I don't think it's appropriate for modern references.
  • Added an applied Omega logo, as per the current generation sapphire sandwich Speedmasters. Calls back to the second gen and third gen applied logos and elevates the dial a little to reflect the higher price points lately.
  • Added a watermark after what happened last time, although the hype's probably passed already. Would not be on the final watch 😜

Also, it isn't reflected in the mockup but I would like to see a return to 40-41 mm case size, 47 mm lug to lug and 12-13 mm thickness. Ideally 12 mm, but I imagine they'd keep the sapphire exhibition caseback so a cap at 13 mm is probably more realistic.


If I'm honest, I don't see much of this happening. My prediction is they won't reduce the HEV, they won't taper the bracelet and they won't make it less chunky, or at least not by enough. They may go back to 41 mm and make the dial a bit cleaner, reminiscent of the old gens though probably still glossy and laser engraved. Colour options unlikely to change. I also don't think they will reintroduce the wave dial or no date outside of limited editions, much as I wish they would.
 
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I covered my wishlist many pages ago with a render, and I still stand by all of it! Some posters reckoned tapering the bracelet would look weird but I don't really see why personally, a 1mm taper to the outer links only should not be a big issue.

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If I'm honest, I don't see much of this happening. My prediction is they won't reduce the HEV, they won't taper the bracelet and they won't make it less chunky, or at least not by enough. They may go back to 41 mm and make the dial a bit cleaner, reminiscent of the old gens though probably still glossy and laser engraved. Colour options unlikely to change. I also don't think they will reintroduce the wave dial or no date outside of limited editions, much as I wish they would.
I agree the previous (gen3?) HEV was much less obtrusive, but I don’t see them reducing back to that.

Guess it all depends if just a one off black dial or if they intend to the full hog and release the same colour variants.

Would love a gloss black dial similar to the recent AT releases, sans date. The only current SMP I’m considering is the SeaWeed so if they announced this sans date & domed sapphire - take my money.

Have heard a taper bracelet is due to be announced. Mesh isn’t my cup of tea nor the standard bracelet.
 
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I’ve resisted speculating on watch this new watch might be until now, but I thought I’d put my thoughts out here because they are quite different than any others I have seen.

I think they will introduce this watch as a cheaper alternative to the standard Omega Seamaster 300m, to better compete in the price range of the Tudor Black Bay (which is now about $1500 cheaper). It will be marketed as the Omega Seamaster Classic, will utilize the older model’s 41mm case and, old-style wave dial, painted and printed dial with no metal surrounds, and an aluminum bezel insert. In other words, trying to make it visually appear as close to the original 90s Seamaster Pro as possible. Might not even make it METAS certified, just a regular chronometer.

That would be sufficient “non-luxurious” materials (no ceramic, no METAS cert, no bling metal surrounds) to justify a lower price AND separate it from the current model (which would start to be priced a little higher). And the only colors I would expect would be classic blue and black. They’d keep the more colorful variations for the newer model. Heck, they might even go back to the cal. 2500D.

Frankly, if they did all this, I might be tempted to buy one.

Thoughts?
 
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I’ve resisted speculating on watch this new watch might be until now, but I thought I’d put my thoughts out here because they are quite different than any others I have seen.

I think they will introduce this watch as a cheaper alternative to the standard Omega Seamaster 300m, to better compete in the price range of the Tudor Black Bay (which is now about $1500 cheaper). It will be marketed as the Omega Seamaster Classic, will utilize the older model’s 41mm case and, old-style wave dial, painted and printed dial with no metal surrounds, and an aluminum bezel insert. In other words, trying to make it visually appear as close to the original 90s Seamaster Pro as possible. Might not even make it METAS certified, just a regular chronometer.

That would be sufficient “non-luxurious” materials (no ceramic, no METAS cert, no bling metal surrounds) to justify a lower price AND separate it from the current model (which would start to be priced a little higher). And the only colors I would expect would be classic blue and black. They’d keep the more colorful variations for the newer model. Heck, they might even go back to the cal. 2500D.

Frankly, if they did all this, I might be tempted to buy one.

Thoughts?
Not seeing Omega going backwards in certification/case size to be honest. I'm guessing it will just be a black version of the 60th Bond.
 
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Not seeing Omega going backwards in certification/case size to be honest. I'm guessing it will just be a black version of the 60th Bond.
Perhaps. I believe this is the move, as uninteresting as it is. I want to draw attention to one final thing though.
Daniel Craig promotes the watch in two different outfits. The first photoshoot, the watch looks remarkably smaller. See below:

In the next candid shoot, he is wearing a different outfit and the watch looks much bigger:

Just a speculative post, and a bit of fun, but it seems to me like they’ll drop two different sizes. A 42MM, and a reduced size. From the pics, both have different shaped HEV’s too.
 
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I’ve resisted speculating on watch this new watch might be until now, but I thought I’d put my thoughts out here because they are quite different than any others I have seen.

I think they will introduce this watch as a cheaper alternative to the standard Omega Seamaster 300m, to better compete in the price range of the Tudor Black Bay (which is now about $1500 cheaper). It will be marketed as the Omega Seamaster Classic, will utilize the older model’s 41mm case and, old-style wave dial, painted and printed dial with no metal surrounds, and an aluminum bezel insert. In other words, trying to make it visually appear as close to the original 90s Seamaster Pro as possible. Might not even make it METAS certified, just a regular chronometer.

That would be sufficient “non-luxurious” materials (no ceramic, no METAS cert, no bling metal surrounds) to justify a lower price AND separate it from the current model (which would start to be priced a little higher). And the only colors I would expect would be classic blue and black. They’d keep the more colorful variations for the newer model. Heck, they might even go back to the cal. 2500D.

Frankly, if they did all this, I might be tempted to buy one.

Thoughts?

I don't think they would want to cannibalise sales of the real Seamaster, nor want to be be perceived as trying to compete with Tudor. Omega have been moving up, not down.
 
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Time will tell I guess.

I’m just happy a no date Seamaster is on the cards. Depending on what is announced I’m either going Seamaster or back to a Speedy.
 
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I, too, have my wish list that I detailed quite a few posts ago, but I don't see Omega doing any of it. I also don't think this "new" Seamaster is going to be all that new. Never did. Not smaller, not a different HEV, same bracelet, etc.
 
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I think being simply a black version of the Bond 60th will be a let down in context of the rollout. Too much hype and speculation for something not that interesting.
 
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I think being simply a black version of the Bond 60th will be a let down in context of the rollout. Too much hype and speculation for something not that interesting.
I agree but unfortunately am fully prepared for the disappointment of it being just that - a simple black version of the Bond 60th.
 
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I don't think they would want to cannibalise sales of the real Seamaster, nor want to be be perceived as trying to compete with Tudor. Omega have been moving up, not down.
Yea they definitely shouldn't market something as a "cheaper Seamaster" to compete with Tudor.

What I think they should do is make like an SMP 200M in 39mm and no HEV or date to differentiate it from the full size 300M and just market it as a smaller option, not a cheaper option.

That or redesign the heritage SM300 as a 39mm, vintage-styled diver. The fact that there's a PO model that's smaller than both the SMP and SM300 is ridiculous.
 
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I’ve resisted speculating on watch this new watch might be until now, but I thought I’d put my thoughts out here because they are quite different than any others I have seen.

I think they will introduce this watch as a cheaper alternative to the standard Omega Seamaster 300m, to better compete in the price range of the Tudor Black Bay (which is now about $1500 cheaper). It will be marketed as the Omega Seamaster Classic, will utilize the older model’s 41mm case and, old-style wave dial, painted and printed dial with no metal surrounds, and an aluminum bezel insert. In other words, trying to make it visually appear as close to the original 90s Seamaster Pro as possible. Might not even make it METAS certified, just a regular chronometer.

That would be sufficient “non-luxurious” materials (no ceramic, no METAS cert, no bling metal surrounds) to justify a lower price AND separate it from the current model (which would start to be priced a little higher). And the only colors I would expect would be classic blue and black. They’d keep the more colorful variations for the newer model. Heck, they might even go back to the cal. 2500D.

Frankly, if they did all this, I might be tempted to buy one.

Thoughts?
I would buy one in a heatbeat, but alas like most others I dont think Omega will make a cheaper competitor to the Seamaster and Aqua terra line. Not to mention a competitor to the other brands under the Swatch umbrella and that are maybe more important.

Buuuut if sales are going to stay low for the Swiss manufacturers, they have to either reduce prices or sell more expencive watches. I think the latter will be the one they choose.
 
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if sales are going to stay low for the Swiss manufacturers, they have to either reduce prices or sell more expensive watches. I think the latter will be the one they choose.
Agreed, Omega will attempt to move upmarket and/or do many more variants of their popular bread & butter watches.

A downmarket move would be a brand disaster and immediately devalue the entire line ...

If fact, isn't this exactly what Panerai did with with the Due line with 30m of WR and got demolished for it?
 
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I never understood the hate of dates, i personally love them and do not care about the symmetry of the watch, I mean I feel weird without a date on a watch. a seamaster without a date is just weird but it works with the bond 60th, anything else is just weird IMO, I guess I’m a complications kind of guy
 
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I never understood the hate of dates, i personally love them and do not care about the symmetry of the watch, I mean I feel weird without a date on a watch. a seamaster without a date is just weird but it works with the bond 60th, anything else is just weird IMO, I guess I’m a complications kind of guy
Don’t hate them. Just prefer my watches without them, always look more pleasing to the eye.

6 o clock date done well is nice, much like the current gen Seamasters.

If the option to have a non days version is available I’d always go that route.

Oddly the complication I do probably need as I’m often forgetting the date when not working.

And I do love a big date ala Lange 1 & GO Pano collection.
 
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I think being simply a black version of the Bond 60th will be a let down in context of the rollout. Too much hype and speculation for something not that interesting.

Don’t hate them. Just prefer my watches without them, always look more pleasing to the eye.

6 o clock date done well is nice, much like the current gen Seamasters.

If the option to have a non days version is available I’d always go that route.

Oddly the complication I do probably need as I’m often forgetting the date when not working.

And I do love a big date ala Lange 1 & GO Pano collection.
Now we just need to add a temperature gauge because I’d use that practically daily 😂
 
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Oddly the complication I do probably need as I’m often forgetting the date when not working.

I occasionally need the date at work and always think about the irony of pulling my phone out to check the date when I'm wearing my Railmaster. But time is tens or hundreds of time a day and date is once or twice so I think it's okay. It's worth the nicer looking dial.
 
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Now we just need to add a temperature gauge because I’d use that practically daily 😂
I got one in my Citizen diver, dont look as good as a Seamaster 😀 and it shows water temperature, not air temp. Good for settling the old question " how cold is this water really?" when out swimming.


Pic from the net.
 
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I got one in my Citizen diver, dont look as good as a Seamaster 😀 and it shows water temperature, not air temp. Good for settling the old question " how cold is this water really?" when out swimming.


Pic from the net.
Hey, for all we know this is exactly what a spy who operates underwater for missions may select as his personal choice 😎