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··Oooo subtitles!Omega replace a lume dial if the lume doesn`t glow anymore because it has to it`s a functional thing they don`t care for vintage originality it`s that simple.
Please help!!! :) Omega Speedmaster reduced in 1986
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blueteg
·And as others has written the build in chrono modul is very complicated to service and you have to find a real master watchmaker for the job.
Most watchmakers would reject to take an order to service this Debuis-Depraz chrono modul but there`s Omega HQ in Biehl/Switzerland also.
For your information:
https://journal.hautehorlogerie.org...nograph-module-switzerlands-best-kept-secret/
The movement(s) that came in the Reduced gets a bad rap for service cost and complexity.
It's the exact same price ($750 USD) from Omega to service any of the movements found in the Reduced, as it is to service any of the self winding movements in any of the (steel) self winding Speedmaster Professionals.
Any Omega qualified independent watch maker should be able to service your Reduced. I had mine serviced by local Omega qualified indy watchmaker and his price was within $50 of what Omega would have charged me.
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tikkathree
·I got to this point and confess I'd forgotten what the OP's question was in the first place so back I went: I think I have it now.
Bravo to the OP for sticking with the generally unpopular Speedmaster Reduced.
Bravo to this forum for the depth of product knowledge available.
To the OP I wish you success in finding what you seek. Having myself explored the world of "Reduced" and "Schumacher Reduced" models I would say that many of the watches in the pre-owned market are likely to come from Japan & HK based resellers and are unlikely to come iwht boxes, papers and all bracelet links though with slim wrists this might not be an issue for you.
Bravo to the OP for sticking with the generally unpopular Speedmaster Reduced.
Bravo to this forum for the depth of product knowledge available.
To the OP I wish you success in finding what you seek. Having myself explored the world of "Reduced" and "Schumacher Reduced" models I would say that many of the watches in the pre-owned market are likely to come from Japan & HK based resellers and are unlikely to come iwht boxes, papers and all bracelet links though with slim wrists this might not be an issue for you.
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sirtaifun
·The movement(s) that came in the Reduced gets a bad rap for service cost and complexity.
It's the exact same price ($750 USD) from Omega to service any of the movements found in the Reduced, as it is to service any of the self winding movements in any of the (steel) self winding Speedmaster Professionals.
Any Omega qualified independent watch maker should be able to service your Reduced. I had mine serviced by local Omega qualified indy watchmaker and his price was within $50 of what Omega would have charged me.
But I heard and read often that owners facing problems afterwards.
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sirtaifun
·It might be simple to you but that’s not how they operate in the uk. They may offer a dial replacement for that reason but they won’t insist on it.
But the fact is they offer dial replacement and most owners, beside vintage freaks like us, wouldn`t resist.
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··Omega Qualified WatchmakerThe movement(s) that came in the Reduced gets a bad rap for service cost and complexity.
It's the exact same price ($750 USD) from Omega to service any of the movements found in the Reduced, as it is to service any of the self winding movements in any of the (steel) self winding Speedmaster Professionals.
Any Omega qualified independent watch maker should be able to service your Reduced. I had mine serviced by local Omega qualified indy watchmaker and his price was within $50 of what Omega would have charged me.
Indeed, people often cite more expensive pricing, but the more common issue is less servicing options, because many watchmakers choose not to service them.
What can happen with some watchmakers who service these watches is that they only service the base movement, and not the module. I've seen claims that this is "fine" because the person who owns the watch doesn't use the chronograph a lot so the module doesn't require servicing. However, the module actually moves all the hands you see on the dial - the base movement really only powers the module, and the module does everything else. Servicing only the base movement is just doing 1/2 the job that is really required.
Of course there are some watchmakers who do the entire thing, but they are not common in my experience.
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··Oooo subtitles!Listen to the man. These have a bad rep for a reason and its not all prejudice. If you are happy to spend $750 to service your watch all is fine, but that hasn't always been the case (at one point not so long ago $750-1000 would buy a Speedy Reduced outright) so these were very often not as well cared for as more valuable models.
ps for the guy above who commented that he had his serviced by an Indy for 'within $50 of what Omega would have charge me' like that is a good thing, I am not sure what you mean by that. If you had to pay an Indy that much, why not go to Omega? Omega would have changed out the chrono module for a brand new unit. These can be of course be serviced by competent Indys, even those without parts account but there are no parts for the module available whatsoever AFAIK to anyone, it is exchange or nothing so there can be issues.
ps for the guy above who commented that he had his serviced by an Indy for 'within $50 of what Omega would have charge me' like that is a good thing, I am not sure what you mean by that. If you had to pay an Indy that much, why not go to Omega? Omega would have changed out the chrono module for a brand new unit. These can be of course be serviced by competent Indys, even those without parts account but there are no parts for the module available whatsoever AFAIK to anyone, it is exchange or nothing so there can be issues.
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·If you had to pay an Indy that much, why not go to Omega?
1.) More control over the aesthetic parts of the watch that I did (or did not) want refinished/replaced. I felt more confident making my intentions known to the guy that was actually going to be working on the watch. I've read some threads on here where the Omega service center replaced or refinished parts that the customer did not want altered.
2.) Faster turn around time. Omega's service lead time, at the time, was running 3+ months. The indy's time frame was more definitive at 8-12 weeks. Actual turn around time was about 10 weeks.
3.) All of the sales guys at my local OB know this indy, and one of them even recommended the indy over the Omega service center based on how backed up the service center was at the time (due to Corona virus). He's Omega qualified, and the endorsement by the guys at my local OB I think speaks to his reputation locally servicing the brand.
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··Oooo subtitles!1.) More control over the aesthetic parts of the watch that I did (or did not) want refinished/replaced. I felt more confident making my intentions known to the guy that was actually going to be working on the watch. I've read some threads on here where the Omega service center replaced or refinished parts that the customer did not want altered.
2.) Faster turn around time. Omega's service lead time, at the time, was running 3+ months. The indy's time frame was more definitive at 8-12 weeks. Actual turn around time was about 10 weeks.
3.) All of the sales guys at my local OB know this indy, and one of them even recommended the indy over the Omega service center based on how backed up the service center was at the time (due to Corona virus). He's Omega qualified, and the endorsement by the guys at my local OB I think speaks to his reputation locally servicing the brand.
Incidentally this isn't an issue purely for the Speedy Reduced, plenty of other watches use the DD module going all the way back to the early 1970s. The Omega Speedsonic and several early Heuer Auto Chronos used the same set up to name but 2 but there were many others. In the 1990s it seemed nearly everyone was offering a modular chrono but it is less commonly seen now.
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sirtaifun
·Yeah and Anonimo, Raymond Weil, Breitling, Richard Mille, Audemars Piguet and others.
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·To the OP, I had been searching for a reduced when I discovered the Speedmaster date, smaller size and good looking.
I'll have to see if I can find a picture.
I'll have to see if I can find a picture.
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MRC
·Incidentally this isn't an issue purely for the Speedy Reduced, plenty of other watches use the DD module going all the way back to the early 1970s. The Omega Speedsonic and several early Heuer Auto Chronos used the same set up to name but 2.
Dubois-Dépraz chronograph modules go back to 1937 according to this source https://www.watchlounge.com/a-techn...pecialist-and-its-new-integrated-chronograph/
The 8510 module as used by Heuer, Breitling & Hamilton/Buren in 1969 is not the same as the 2020 in the Reduced. The 8510 has jumping minute and hour sub-dial hands, the 2020 has creeping sub-dials. I find the jumping hands to be much easier to read correctly, but then if I honestly needed accurate timing today it would be wholly electronic.
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