Forums Latest Members
  1. Engee Sep 16, 2019

    Posts
    1,539
    Likes
    3,233
    I’ve noticed on eBay over recent weeks a few SS Seamasters being offered, cal.1020 with the initials PAF and an upward pointing arrow on the case back. Each time the letters are engraved in a slightly different way. The seller says they were issued for the Pakistan Air Force. They always come from the same seller and attract a high number of bidders. The watches look clean but this is unusual to me and I wonder if anyone here knows anything ablout these or if they should be avoided. Thank you.
     
  2. Dan S Sep 16, 2019

    Posts
    18,778
    Likes
    43,201
    Do they have Extracts from the Archive verifying the PAF connect? Perhaps post some links and photos.
     
  3. Engee Sep 16, 2019

    Posts
    1,539
    Likes
    3,233
    The seller offers no authentication. Here are some images.
     
    CCF7C6FA-9DB9-40F2-876B-DBE379224579.jpeg 288A94E4-7752-48EA-93A3-08E242E0A392.jpeg
  4. KingCrouchy Sep 16, 2019

    Posts
    1,502
    Likes
    5,665
    So a military pilot Watch without lume. I smell bs in this case.:whistling:
     
    Patrik83, chronoboy64, Eve and 2 others like this.
  5. Dan S Sep 16, 2019

    Posts
    18,778
    Likes
    43,201
    OK, that is definitely not what I was imagining when I read the title of this thread. What a piece of crap.
     
  6. Engee Sep 16, 2019

    Posts
    1,539
    Likes
    3,233
    I thought that too, but then he doesn’t say it’s a pilot’s watch. It could be for ground staff?
     
  7. Engee Sep 16, 2019

    Posts
    1,539
    Likes
    3,233
    Do you mean you don’t buy the story, or you thinks the watch is not genuine?
     
  8. igatomic Sep 16, 2019

    Posts
    247
    Likes
    278
    Or, somebody with PAF as their initials? I agree on the turd sentiment...
     
    watchyouwant and p4ul like this.
  9. Dan S Sep 16, 2019

    Posts
    18,778
    Likes
    43,201
    The watch is junk. Fake engraving, refinished dial, over polished case. Hopefully there's actually an Omega movement inside, but who knows.
     
  10. p4ul “WATERRROOP” to 50m Sep 16, 2019

    Posts
    1,264
    Likes
    2,847

    Pay
    Anything is
    Foolish

    ???????
     
    sonicosa and Engee like this.
  11. Engee Sep 16, 2019

    Posts
    1,539
    Likes
    3,233
    Possible, although three watches the same model with these initials seems odd.
     
  12. Dan S Sep 16, 2019

    Posts
    18,778
    Likes
    43,201
    Pretty sure that was intended as a joke by @igatomic.

    Or maybe that was intended as a joke by you. ;)
     
  13. downtownbobbyb Sep 16, 2019

    Posts
    75
    Likes
    37
    day date pilots watch? And the weirdest looking broadarrow ever!
     
  14. S.H. Sep 16, 2019

    Posts
    1,515
    Likes
    3,514
    All the PAF watches I ever saw (Citizen, Tissot, Omega) had a broad arrow engraved (long or short tail); this is not a broad arrow. Feels fake to me.

    s-l16002-.jpg
     
  15. Engee Sep 16, 2019

    Posts
    1,539
    Likes
    3,233
    OK, that’s very helpful, thank you. I am not yet sufficiently knowledgeable to identify fake or refinished dials but I did wonder about the highly polished case. The problem I have is I like highly polished cases even though I read here that they are not for collectors!
     
  16. Engee Sep 16, 2019

    Posts
    1,539
    Likes
    3,233
    Here’s a pictures of the movement, since you mention it!
     
    BA7993FB-2C0D-4D99-9C09-2C028BA8BA69.jpeg
  17. Engee Sep 16, 2019

    Posts
    1,539
    Likes
    3,233
    No, I missed the joke , thanks for the heads up
     
  18. DaveK Yoda of Yodelers Sep 16, 2019

    Posts
    4,181
    Likes
    11,840
    This is how the back should look
    toilets-arrow-up-signs-p1194-32005_zoom.jpg
     
    Henneth, Nobel Prize, Luca.P and 5 others like this.
  19. Grillome Jan 14, 2020

    Posts
    16
    Likes
    6
    It’s totally legit. I have the exact same watch same movement and confirmation that they were authentic. Given to officers or ground staff. Mine is unpolished though. Great everyday watch.
     
    8A7153F4-21C9-4313-8206-D29ABF641282.jpeg 7B674CA6-4628-4125-8B02-941E5EE2F001.jpeg 033FD6C9-5C12-42EA-98F7-DCC551D5ADD4.jpeg
  20. KingCrouchy Jan 14, 2020

    Posts
    1,502
    Likes
    5,665
    Nice, who confirmed that they where authentic? Happy to learn more.:thumbsup: