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Original 1954 Bumper?

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You've just said it yourself - it appears in ads of the time. So we know it happened, just not how often, hence my use of the word "occasional". Whilst few would dispute that the decagonal crown was the standard, several Constellations with the clover crown have been posted here over the years. Unless they were all serviced by the same watchmaker, it seems an odd coincidence that so many watchmakers should have run short of the decagonal crown and chosen to fit this one instead of the approved service replacement. Until more information becomes available, If the condition of the crown matches the watch it is realistic to assume that it may be original to it.

Taking this into account and given the extreme difficulty of sourcing an original decagonal crown, I would leave it on it if were mine. The OP can of course do whatever he wants with his watch. I am simply pointing out that the crown might be the one it came with.

I instantly thought the crown had been replaced but if it were mine I’d be more concerned about changing the strap 😁 Sorry OP, beautiful watch, just lovely 😀
 
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I've been ogling that particular watch for aaages!

Well done the wife for pulling the trigger! I'd be very happy if that happened to me.
 
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Edward53 Edward53
You've just said it yourself - it appears in ads of the time. So we know it happened, just not how often, hence my use of the word "occasional". Whilst few would dispute that the decagonal crown was the standard, several Constellations with the clover crown have been posted here over the years. Unless they were all serviced by the same watchmaker, it seems an odd coincidence that so many watchmakers should have run short of the decagonal crown and chosen to fit this one instead of the approved service replacement.

I agree that there have been posted a lot of 50's Constellations with clover crowns (I have had one myself), but I have seen almost as many Seamasters with Constellation crowns... Which we know isn't correct. So there is basis to believe that substituting crowns for one reason or another was if not common practise, then at least not unheard of.

We simply don't know enough about how the policy of service replacements, authorised watchmakers, etc. to say anything with certainty, so IMO saying that "Unless they were all serviced by the same watchmaker" seems like a bit of a stretch to me. It should apply to the above argument of decagonal crowns on Seamasters too, right?

I can only remember a single advertising image (not a photo) where a Constellation had a clover crown and we know that the vast majority of fifties Constellations now have decagonal crowns, so are those incorrect service replacements then? 😉

There is a case for saying that a clover crown could be correct, but to me the odds are against it.
 
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Chinaski Chinaski
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Yes, the rim of the waffle dial is lime green. Here is a more detailed photo.

Are you sure it is not a reflection from that phosphorescent strap? 😀

I'm obviously joking here, that's a very nice watch.
 
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bardamu bardamu
Are you sure it is not a reflection from that phosphorescent strap? 😀

I'm obviously joking here, that's a very nice watch.

Haha. Yeah the strap is loud and I'd be lying if I said it hadn't crossed my mind that it might be the strap casting off on the dial rim but it definitely has a lime green hue to it and the dealer clearly added the green strap to match.

The combo is loud and unusual in all the right ways, for me.
 
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ConElPueblo ConElPueblo
I agree that there have been posted a lot of 50's Constellations with clover crowns (I have had one myself), but I have seen almost as many Seamasters with Constellation crowns... Which we know isn't correct. So there is basis to believe that substituting crowns for one reason or another was if not common practise, then at least not unheard of.

We simply don't know enough about how the policy of service replacements, authorised watchmakers, etc. to say anything with certainty, so IMO saying that "Unless they were all serviced by the same watchmaker" seems like a bit of a stretch to me. It should apply to the above argument of decagonal crowns on Seamasters too, right?

I can only remember a single advertising image (not a photo) where a Constellation had a clover crown and we know that the vast majority of fifties Constellations now have decagonal crowns, so are those incorrect service replacements then? 😉

There is a case for saying that a clover crown could be correct, but to me the odds are against it.
When I got my SM120 it came with skinny white hands just like Speedmaster hands (I have since sourced correct period hands). We all knew those are incorrect for the watch, but then I saw another, and another. It is very possibly that for a period of time, the “correct” hands for that watch were out of production, so if a watchmaker ordered new hands for the reference, that may just be what was sent from the factory.
 
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Looking back at this dealer's stock, he has some fantastic and mouth-watering new pieces in. But the PRICES!? I swear he has raised them even further!

I had to check to see if he changed his pricing from USD to Canadian Dollars.
 
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Awetaylor Awetaylor
Looking back at this dealer's stock, he has some fantastic and mouth-watering new pieces in. But the PRICES!? I swear he has raised them even further!

I had to check to see if he changed his pricing from USD to Canadian Dollars.

Reportedly, the prices may be negotiable
 
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