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  1. nanjingcigaretes practicing PMA Jan 8, 2021

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    Hi OF members,
    I have this Croton Chronomaster Aviator Sea Diver with V23 movement.
    Which will soon be up on sale section.
    I am no expert of this model, though I want to give an honest desciptions, accurate infomation to all OF members, especially for new members, collectors.
    Based on my research the bezel insert looks like a replacement, are there any other problems that you can notice, I am open for all opinions, judgements.
    Thank you all in advanced.
    Harry
     
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  2. Dan S Jan 8, 2021

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    @SpeedTar knows a lot about these, and he started a thread with lots of great photos:
    https://omegaforums.net/threads/niv...ronomaster-aviator-sea-diver-only-book.82319/

    I'm not an expert, but I've had a couple of these. I agree about the bezel insert. Otherwise I'm not seeing any obvious red-flags. Small running seconds hand looks slightly different (sword vs. alpha), but maybe that's the photos.

    Here is my similar NG (but Valjoux 92) for comparison. I have the same crown as you, which is interesting since @SpeedTar thinks mine is incorrect. Maybe they have both been replaced with a common generic. Or maybe they are both actually correct. The pushers are different, but perhaps that is because they are different movements.

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  3. nanjingcigaretes practicing PMA Jan 8, 2021

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    Hi Dan,
    Thanks for the info, you are right about the sub second hand, now I noticed it, they have different shape.
    The Crown is unsign, but do have steeped.
    Some other example I saw Nivada sign, but also I am clueless about these.
    Harry
     
  4. Dan S Jan 8, 2021

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    Yes, my crown is also unsigned. The "step" he is referring to is on the outside of the crown. Both you and I have unsigned crowns with no step.

    Here is a stepped crown from a pre-Chronomaster. Just showing it as an example. I really don't know what is correct, and I don't think I'd be too worried about it. I have seen so many different crowns on these.
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  5. nanjingcigaretes practicing PMA Jan 9, 2021

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    Ooh, I thought he was talking about under crown stepped.:thumbsdown:::facepalm1::
    Ok let us both agree on that.
    Thanks again for sharing the information, Dan.
    Cheers,
    Harry
     
  6. zoohannover Jan 9, 2021

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    Nice watch, you should keep it ;).

    Here are two photos from the book.

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    I would also agree regarding the bezel. It is different from all six vaiations mentioned in the book. And it has this gloss.
     
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  7. nanjingcigaretes practicing PMA Jan 9, 2021

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    According to the book, crown of mine and Dan are both correct, arent they.
    Thank you for sharing.
     
  8. STANDY schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector Jan 9, 2021

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    Always laugh when I see Aviation Sea Diver

    Dennis used to post this every time without fail.....
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  9. Dr.Sascha Jan 15, 2021

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    The batons might have been relumed--bit suspicious that it's nearly the exact same shade as the dial lume markers. Usually, the lume on the former darkens b/c it's in contact with the metal, whereas the lume on the dial just goes puffy and fuzzy over time. But a nice piece, overall!
     
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  10. Skipper_S Jan 15, 2021

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    I think that all original crowns for chronomasters should be signed .

    Chronograph's crown on picture above (pre chronomaster) is correct. They started putting signed crowns on Chronomasters
     
  11. zoohannover Jan 15, 2021

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    I think unsigned crowns are fine for many Chronomasters especially the ones released by Croton.

    Have scanned some more information:

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