Opinions on Croton CASD V23

nanjingcigaretes · Jan 8, 2021

Hi OF members,
I have this Croton Chronomaster Aviator Sea Diver with V23 movement.
Which will soon be up on sale section.
I am no expert of this model, though I want to give an honest desciptions, accurate infomation to all OF members, especially for new members, collectors.
Based on my research the bezel insert looks like a replacement, are there any other problems that you can notice, I am open for all opinions, judgements.
Thank you all in advanced.
Harry

Dan S · Jan 8, 2021

@SpeedTar knows a lot about these, and he started a thread with lots of great photos:
https://omegaforums.net/threads/niv...ronomaster-aviator-sea-diver-only-book.82319/

I'm not an expert, but I've had a couple of these. I agree about the bezel insert. Otherwise I'm not seeing any obvious red-flags. Small running seconds hand looks slightly different (sword vs. alpha), but maybe that's the photos.

Here is my similar NG (but Valjoux 92) for comparison. I have the same crown as you, which is interesting since @SpeedTar thinks mine is incorrect. Maybe they have both been replaced with a common generic. Or maybe they are both actually correct. The pushers are different, but perhaps that is because they are different movements.

nanjingcigaretes · Jan 8, 2021

Dan S
@SpeedTar knows a lot about these, and he started a thread with lots of great photos:
https://omegaforums.net/threads/niv...ronomaster-aviator-sea-diver-only-book.82319/

I'm not an expert, but I've had a couple of these. I agree about the bezel insert. Otherwise I'm not seeing any obvious red-flags. Small running seconds hand looks slightly different (sword vs. alpha), but maybe that's the photos.

Here is my similar NG (but Valjoux 92) for comparison. I have the same crown as you, which is interesting since @SpeedTar thinks mine is incorrect. Maybe they have both been replaced with a common generic. Or maybe they are both actually correct. The pushers are different, but perhaps that is because they are different movements.

Hi Dan,
Thanks for the info, you are right about the sub second hand, now I noticed it, they have different shape.
The Crown is unsign, but do have steeped.
Some other example I saw Nivada sign, but also I am clueless about these.
Harry

Dan S · Jan 8, 2021

Yes, my crown is also unsigned. The "step" he is referring to is on the outside of the crown. Both you and I have unsigned crowns with no step.

Here is a stepped crown from a pre-Chronomaster. Just showing it as an example. I really don't know what is correct, and I don't think I'd be too worried about it. I have seen so many different crowns on these.

nanjingcigaretes · Jan 9, 2021

Dan S
Yes, my crown is also unsigned. The "step" he is referring to is on the outside of the crown. Both you and I have unsigned crowns with no step.

Here is a stepped crown from a pre-Chronomaster. Just showing it as an example. I really don't know what is correct, and I don't think I'd be too worried about it. I have seen so many different crowns on these.

Ooh, I thought he was talking about under crown stepped.👎 ::facepalm1::

Ok let us both agree on that.
Thanks again for sharing the information, Dan.
Cheers,
Harry

zoohannover · Jan 9, 2021

Nice watch, you should keep it 😉.

Here are two photos from the book.

I would also agree regarding the bezel. It is different from all six vaiations mentioned in the book. And it has this gloss.

nanjingcigaretes · Jan 9, 2021

According to the book, crown of mine and Dan are both correct, arent they.
Thank you for sharing.

STANDY · Jan 9, 2021

Always laugh when I see Aviation Sea Diver

Dennis used to post this every time without fail.....

Dr.Sascha · Jan 15, 2021

The batons might have been relumed--bit suspicious that it's nearly the exact same shade as the dial lume markers. Usually, the lume on the former darkens b/c it's in contact with the metal, whereas the lume on the dial just goes puffy and fuzzy over time. But a nice piece, overall!

Skipper_S · Jan 15, 2021

I think that all original crowns for chronomasters should be signed .

Chronograph's crown on picture above (pre chronomaster) is correct. They started putting signed crowns on Chronomasters