Opinion on the dial of vintage Omega Constellation

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I have just got this watch and am happy with it however just noticed the two minute markers on either side of the 12 o'clock marker don't seem to be perfectly in line. Is this a known issue with watches such as this? I have searched and found other examples with a similar issue but would like to know any expert opinions. Thanks!
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Might be an optical effect of the glass. More pics at different angles would help.
 
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Might be an optical effect of the glass. More pics at different angles would help.
Thanks, hmm, I think it is definitely misaligned slightly, sorry I only have a phone and it can't zoom so well, thanks!
 
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They seem to be misaligned, and that is a sign of redial usually. Better focused pics of the text (with the hands out of the way) are also needed.
 
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They seem to be misaligned, and that is a sign of redial usually. Better focused pics of the text (with the hands out of the way) are also needed.
Thanks, I look at the text and logo and compare to other pictures online of similar watches and I think they are OK and comparable to others, the hour markers seem also to be OK in my opinion its just the minute markers either side of the 12 o'clock. Ive tried a better picture below of text, thanks!
 
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The font and placement of the text seems OK from this distance.
 
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The font and placement of the text seems OK from this distance.
thanks for your replies on this, just getting in to older watches 😀
 
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Mmh - I'm not convinced. Could you produce sharper pictures of the dial, with the hands not covering any of the text?

Agreed it looks good initially, but the mentioned minute ticks / failed MOY-test / distancing of the letters / extent of the serifs make me long for better pics to be certain. Also calling @hoipolloi , probably one of our best members to spot a good redial, and @Peemacgee , the expert on those recessed crown Connies who doesn't accept this title. 😁
 
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Mmh - I'm not convinced. Could you produce sharper pictures of the dial, with the hands not covering any of the text?

Agreed it looks good initially, but the mentioned minute ticks / failed MOY-test / distancing of the letters / extent of the serifs make me long for better pics to be certain. Also calling @hoipolloi , probably one of our best members to spot a good redial, and @Peemacgee , the expert on those recessed crown Connies who doesn't accept this title. 😁
Thanks, sadly my phone refuses to take any better pictures of the dial, I’m still within warranty and taking it to my watch buy at the weekend, the only things that threw me was the minute markers either side of the 12 o’clock.
 
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Looks very similar to mine (same case and dial except mine is the "T" version with lume to go with the different hands) - the failed MOY-test at least is not a warning flag on this particular case-dial combination, they are all like that.

Looking closely I can see that mine also has the minute markers just very slightly off in the same way relative to the 12 o'clock marker, but to a lesser extent.

Just noticed though that the "OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED" is lined up differently. Could this be a differencve between the T and non-T versions of this dial?

Here's mine for comparison. Sorry, camera has focussed on the hairs on the glass! 😀

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Looks very similar to mine (same case and dial except mine is the "T" version with lume to go with the different hands) - the failed MOY-test at least is not a warning flag on this particular case-dial combination, they are all like that.

Looking closely I can see that mine also has the minute markers just very slightly off in the same way relative to the 12 o'clock marker, but to a lesser extent.

Just noticed though that the "OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED" is lined up differently. Could this be a differencve between the T and non-T versions of this dial?

Here's mine for comparison. Sorry, camera has focussed on the hairs on the glass! 😀

Yeah they look pretty alike, mine doesn’t have the lume spot at the 3 o’clock and says Swiss Made as opposed to T Swiss Made T, aside from that the dial looks the same, thanks for showing your watch, I’ve been trying to find other examples online 😀
 
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Thanks, sadly my phone refuses to take any better pictures of the dial, I’m still within warranty and taking it to my watch buy at the weekend, the only things that threw me was the minute markers either side of the 12 o’clock.
It seems to me that some of the others are misaligned, too. 7-12 especially seem to have the minute markers rotated slightly clockwise from the hour markers. I make no comment about what this means, if anything, because I don't have enough experience.
 
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It seems to me that some of the others are misaligned, too. 7-12 especially seem to have the minute markers rotated slightly clockwise from the hour markers. I make no comment about what this means, if anything, because I don't have enough experience.
Yes some others are misaligned, the more I look at other watches this seems to be common on lots of watch’s where the rest of the dial looks fine.
 
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A good close pic like Neeb's is needed to say more.
 
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Thanks, sadly my phone refuses to take any better pictures of the dial.
Sometimes the issue is that the phone (or other camera) won't focus close enough, so that when you try a close up it's actually slightly out-of-focus. My iPhone 12 Mini is particularly bad in that respect, but the resolution is pretty good, so the trick is to take the photo from a little further away and then crop the picture to zoom it in.
 
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Well, regardless of where it was done, I think we can agree that the dial is quite poorly executed. It's ironic that the OP originally mentioned the 12 o'clock marker, because 9, 10, and 11 look much worse to me.
 
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Well, regardless of where it was done, I think we can agree that the dial is quite poorly executed. It's ironic that the OP originally mentioned the 12 o'clock marker, because 9, 10, and 11 look much worse to me.
Where else on the dial apart from the minute markers seems to be poorly done, everything else seems to be as it should be, and that being said I've now seen countless similar watches with slightly misaligned minute markers.
 
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Where else on the dial apart from the minute markers seems to be poorly done, everything else seems to be as it should be, and that being said I've now seen countless similar watches with slightly misaligned minute markers.

I'm glad you like it. Apparently there was no need for this thread. 👍
 
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I have a similar minute markers misaligned constellation dial, and it has made me a little sad cause once it was pointed out to me I can't unsee it...

Mind you I bought it suspecting a "good" redial but I was just too taken by the colour.

So either, there were some QC issues in the late 60's early 70s or someone has made a good printing die for constellations but isnt as fussy with making sure the alignment is perfect when they are reprinting the dial.
 
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Is it maybe more likely that it’s the applied hour markers that are spaced slightly unevenly than that the printed minute marks are uneven? If so, they would appear this way on both an original dial and a good redial, assuming the spacing was perfect for the printed marks. And when someone is doing a good redial and repainting the entire dial, presumably they remove and then reapply the hour markers after painting and printing? That might make uneven spacing of hour markers more common in a redial, even if it also sometimes happened on original dials too.