dial and mid case.
So dial, mid-case; you don't think the back is? how can you tell if the back is or isn't period correct?
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So dial, mid-case; you don't think the back is? how can you tell if the back is or isn't period correct?
Moon landing didn't happen until July of that year, but my guess is that pre-moon production would have continued for a while?
I'm thinking they should have a dust cover lid also?
The handset looks very bright as someone else pointed out, also I've seen a lot of these with dot at side of 90, but I would think dot over 90 is period correct for a 69 pre-moon, that this is a later service part, or similar?
Which period are we allocating to this watch? 😀
Its the kind of watch that has to be valued in parts.
On a bad day I would bid $1500 and regret wining. If I had a project in mind, and just had a really good week in work, I might pay $2500.
Any more than that and it will be a poison chalice - I might find myself pouring more and more into it than I could ever hope to recoup.
Or
Maybe I am too harsh. A speedmaster breaker might say:
Dial $600 - 800
Mvt $800 - 1200
Bezel $300 - 600
Case $1000 - 1500
But do I want to be a breaker? No, and it's a hard road to go down unless it's your business.
Hands definitely not original.
Dustcover, yes, there should be a dust cover.
DON bezel is expected.
Pushers not original.
Dial isn't wrecked but has quite dirty/degraded lume.
You know the crown and movement isn't original.
Case back really doesn't matter at this point for value.
$2000 on a great day for me and I'd need to have some planned use for it and I wouldn't like it. I'm in much closer to $1000, really. There's really nothing I love about this vintage of Speedmaster left but a rough dial and okay looking case back.
as I suspected DON should be present,
Thank you, as I suspected DON should be present, lume is mouldy/dull looking for sure in stark contrast to the handset. I'm really looking for a good-looking daily/beater for around £2,000 that I don't have to worry too much about it getting knocked about, so it's not that important if it's not wholly original and doesn't go up in value .. I do really like the stepped-dial aesthetic of the earlier Speedmasters. If you know of any other contenders that you could suggest that might meet this modest criteria, I'd be very grateful.
£2,000 is pretty tight. You're not finding a ref. 145.022 step dial for that much. Even the new master chronometer step dial is going to be about £3,500. You might find a Broad Arrow Replica ref. 3594.50.00/3894.50.00 for around that. For reference, I'd price mine around £6,000 with the original ref. 1039/516 bracelet and service crown (I have the original . . .somewhere).
Not necessarily -- there are later pre-moon 145.022-69's that have the 220 error, and then the standard tall font example as this watch does. I'm not saying it's original to this watch, but it could certainly be correct if we knew the movement serial (in the later 31M serial range).
...I'm actually looking for something that's a bit compromised, for example having the movement replaced etc. as I want to use it as a daily/beater👍
I can understand and appreciate why you'd want to save a beat-up and compromised speedmaster.
But a daily doesn't need to have swapped parts and beaten up. Sure, you aren't concerned during the day about scratches, but you may not be getting as much joy by looking at and using a watch that makes you smile.
This is my daily and the most beater of my few speedmasters. It makes me happy wearing it. I love the story behind it, that it was an expression of exuberance and the world come together in celebration. It has scratches and wear, so I don't worry about a few more.
If getting the cheapest speedmaster you can find and bringing it back to life makes you happy, go for it. That's fantastic and a worthy project. You should be happy when you look at it and think, I saved this. But a beater doesn't have to be beaten.
I Appreciate that, but yours looks pretty damn good; I'm actually looking for something that's a bit compromised, for example having the movement replaced etc. as I want to use it as a daily/beater👍
