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Kmmdad57
·The speedie is a design classic, wear it with your Ray Ban Aviators, Levis 501s and Brando leather jacket and you will look as smooth as sharkshit!
Omega Speedmaster or Rolex Daytona.
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spacemission
·The answer will depend on the fanboy you ask.
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Evitzee
·Just a tiresome subject, why does one have to be better than the other? I own both, I'd rate the 3861 with the new bracelet pretty equal with the modern Daytona overall, they both look good on the wrist and both function well and are reliable. The Omega has more of the old timey look, the Daytona more modern, take your pick. Value wise the Omega wins because they are available and you don't have to play games to get one. Both are excellent, modern chronographs.
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NGO1
·I've strongly considered getting the Trilogy and influenced a friend to get one
Apparently Omega read our “single watch collection” thread. This is it!
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jsducote
·Do you want the more frequently faked watch or the more frequently copied one?
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Kmmdad57
·If he keeps replying to every post, it will get him a lot closer to 200. 😁
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JwRosenthal
·The watch market is fickle. Values are for speculators and flippers, People who bought used prior the pandemic have made out ok. If you bought at the peak of the pandemic then you have probably seen a loss on either the Speedy or Daytona- if you were inclined to sell.
Looking at watches as “investment” is a topic reserved for WUS, TRF and Reddit.
The overwhelming majority of members here buy for personal enjoyment and retaining value is a nice to have if we ever want to sell or trade (who “wants” to lose money).
As for my apples to oranges- they are both chronographs, they are both made of metal- that’s about where the comparison ends. Very different markets, very different price-points very different esthetics, very different design intent.
And only one of them actually qualified for space flight.
Looking at watches as “investment” is a topic reserved for WUS, TRF and Reddit.
The overwhelming majority of members here buy for personal enjoyment and retaining value is a nice to have if we ever want to sell or trade (who “wants” to lose money).
As for my apples to oranges- they are both chronographs, they are both made of metal- that’s about where the comparison ends. Very different markets, very different price-points very different esthetics, very different design intent.
And only one of them actually qualified for space flight.
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JwRosenthal
·I'd say that it's about even between them. I have an Invicta that looks exactly like a Daytona, and Swatch group did it to themselves with the moonswatches.
The difference is that if you wear a Moonswatch is implies you have a sense of humor and liked the play on the theme that Omega themselves endorsed.
If you wear an Invicta Daytona wannabe it means you wanted a Daytona but bought the Invicta cause it was cheap and available.
I know of many Speedmaster owners who own Moonswatches. Can’t think of a single Daytona owner that owns an Invicta clone.
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bsowers34
·The difference is that if you wear a Moonswatch is implies you have a sense of humor and liked the play on the theme that Omega themselves endorsed.
If you wear an Invicta Daytona wannabe it means you wanted a Daytona but bought the Invicta cause it was cheap and available.
I know of many Speedmaster owners who own Moonswatches. Can’t think of a single Daytona owner that owns an Invicta clone.
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McBeardy
·Not owned a Daytona, but my old boss had the steel bezel white dial variant.
Issues I hear (from people who aren’t buying it to flex). 40mm size is too small for a chronograph, when Rolex went in house from Zenith, sub dials aren’t central, screw down pushers are a faff, legibility is an issue.
Now I’ve owned a Speedy 3861 sapphire, only issue I felt was sometimes it didn’t feel ‘luxury’. It’s now a wad of cash & off to explain didn’t feel it.
Others have issues with the manual winding, I particularly liked this & used to manual watches as has a base Panerai as a daily.
WR Daytona wins, but 50m os good enough for swimming. Like all watches just get them checked. Even divers will fail
Looking back, I’ll own one in a heartbeat again.
Issues I hear (from people who aren’t buying it to flex). 40mm size is too small for a chronograph, when Rolex went in house from Zenith, sub dials aren’t central, screw down pushers are a faff, legibility is an issue.
Now I’ve owned a Speedy 3861 sapphire, only issue I felt was sometimes it didn’t feel ‘luxury’. It’s now a wad of cash & off to explain didn’t feel it.
Others have issues with the manual winding, I particularly liked this & used to manual watches as has a base Panerai as a daily.
WR Daytona wins, but 50m os good enough for swimming. Like all watches just get them checked. Even divers will fail
Looking back, I’ll own one in a heartbeat again.
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bsowers34
·Not owned a Daytona, but my old boss had the steel bezel white dial variant.
Issues I hear (from people who aren’t buying it to flex). 40mm size is too small for a chronograph, when Rolex went in house from Zenith, sub dials aren’t central, screw down pushers are a faff, legibility is an issue.
Now I’ve owned a Speedy 3861 sapphire, only issue I felt was sometimes it didn’t feel ‘luxury’. It’s now a wad of cash & off to explain didn’t feel it.
Others have issues with the manual winding, I particularly liked this & used to manual watches as has a base Panerai as a daily.
WR Daytona wins, but 50m os good enough for swimming. Like all watches just get them checked. Even divers will fail
Looking back, I’ll own one in a heartbeat again.
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McBeardy
·Try a white dial 3861. I didn't love the sapphire black dial, but the white one is killer. Strangely I do love my hesalite 3861. Must be the different crystal shape.
The white looks sublime but not for me. I’d happily go back to the standard sapphire. If the hesalite had the applied logo and sapphire case back. That would be a winner.
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bsowers34
·I love the new FOIS sapphire to be on the current Speedy Pro. It seems to eliminate the milky ring (which has improved since the last gen).
The white looks sublime but not for me. I’d happily go back to the standard sapphire. If the hesalite had the applied logo and sapphire case back. That would be a winner.
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Scarecrow Boat
··Burt Macklin, FBI
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Vinz Clortho
·As for the age old question, the answer is "It depends." It's up to the wearer. Personally, tried the Daytona on a while back and was unimpressed with the legibility of it, which should be the criteria of a chrono. Forget about marketing hype which is difficult, I know. The Daytona dial is overly busy compared to the Speedmaster. Might be the larger ceramic bezel, or it could be the subdials, or a combination of things.
Grabbed the White Dial when it came out before my Alaskan cruise. After having it for a while, found the aluminum bezel didn't match the watch. Reeplaced it with a ceramic one and does make a subtle difference matching the high polish shine of the hour markers and hands.
Grabbed the White Dial when it came out before my Alaskan cruise. After having it for a while, found the aluminum bezel didn't match the watch. Reeplaced it with a ceramic one and does make a subtle difference matching the high polish shine of the hour markers and hands.
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Kmmdad57
·The watch market is fickle. Values are for speculators and flippers, People who bought used prior the pandemic have made out ok. If you bought at the peak of the pandemic then you have probably seen a loss on either the Speedy or Daytona- if you were inclined to sell.
Looking at watches as “investment” is a topic reserved for WUS, TRF and Reddit.
The overwhelming majority of members here buy for personal enjoyment and retaining value is a nice to have if we ever want to sell or trade (who “wants” to lose money).
As for my apples to oranges- they are both chronographs, they are both made of metal- that’s about where the comparison ends. Very different markets, very different price-points very different esthetics, very different design intent.
And only one of them actually qualified for space flight.
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NGO1
·I agree with some of this, however they are SS chronographs and based on that they are worthy of a comparison. Both are mass produced luxury chronographs watches. This comparison isn't much different then comparing cars of the same category. We don't say a Rav 4 and a CRV both have 4 tires, 4 cylinders and 4 doors, but this is where the comparison ends, They were both designed for the same purpose and that is why they are comparable. Daytona and Speedmaster was designed for the same purpose and I believe are comparable. However you are entitled to your opinion.
Legacy watches aren't sold on their mechanical excellence. I bought ( well, hunted and jumped over 632 hoops while singing the alphabet in reverse) an AP because my boss couldn't get it. I make sure I wear it every Friday with short sleeves. Worth every penny.
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