Omega Speedmaster Hodinkee 10th Anniversary Limited Edition

Pun · Sep 7, 2018

B BLAUGRANA
So both Speedy Tuesdays were created because Broer thought they were significant to others? If the MK 40 wasn't a significant watch then why did the H10 do so well?

So nobody wants a watch that looks like an MK 40 but forgoes the extra functionality yet costs $4000 more and yet they sold out in about 24 hours. Got it.

I fail to see a reasonable logic in your argument Sir. Perhaps only 250 pieces were sold at the particular website/blog on pure impulse buying due to the hype associated with its many previous LE releases.
Omega ADs calling people to buy them as ONLY few are left reflects poorly on the release per se IMHO. Just my 2c.

BLAUGRANA · Sep 7, 2018

abrod520
Well, yeah. He worked with Omega to add all the little vintage & NASA details on the first one, then pushed further with the second one. If not, why haven't we seen stepped dials and DON bezels on other watches yet?

Not sure why you quoted the question when you really didn't answer it.

abrod520
24 hours for 500 pieces, advertised via the biggest watch channel in the world. Versus the Speedy Tuesdays, advertised via a single channel (Instagram), sold out 2000 pieces each within hours.

And like I've been saying, looooottttta people buying the Hodinkee watch cause they think they can flip it for a couple thousand dollars' profit. Wait til that doesn't come to pass - gonna see a lot of these on WatchRecon, eBay and Chrono24 just sitting there

False equivalency considering that A) only half of the H10 were available online and B) the STs were a reservation and not a sale.

Good thing nobody flipped a ST release. Oh wait...

BLAUGRANA · Sep 7, 2018

Pun
I fail to see a reasonable logic in your argument Sir. Perhaps only 250 pieces were sold at the particular website/blog on pure impulse buying due to the hype associated with its many previous LE releases.
Omega ADs calling people to buy them as ONLY few are left reflects poorly on the release per se IMHO. Just my 2c.

LOL. STs were also bought on pure impulse by your "reasoning".

I would say it's an ADs job to call people and sell their product. On top of that, I'd add it wasn't clear to many that it was sold out. And if it reflects poorly then why did they all sell? Someone posted Hodinkee that they thought they missed out until they heard that half went through ADs.

Pun · Sep 7, 2018

There is an old Lao Tzu story that seems to be relevant here; it’ll calm down nerves at least...

A scholar widely known for his keen intellect visits a Tao Master at his humble abode.

The Master graciously serves him tea, just like what he does to every visiting guest.

While the Master is pouring tea, the scholar talks about Tao.

The Master continues pouring, even when the cup is filled to the brim. The cup soon overflows, and the scholar can no long pretend not to see it.

“It’s overfull, Sir!” Exclaims he. “No more tea will go in!”

“You are like this cup,” says the master. “How can I show you Tao unless you first empty your cup?”
---
In order to understand other’s views, we have to view them from their perspective and understand without prejudice. If we hold ours as a precious treasure, that may be worthless stone, we can’t take others’ that might be really be some gem to replace with ours.

There is a huge difference between a discussion and an argument.

Regards

abrod520 · Sep 7, 2018

B BLAUGRANA
Not sure why you quoted the question when you really didn't answer it.

Just because you don’t like the answer, doesn’t mean it’s not there...

B BLAUGRANA
False equivalency considering that A) only half of the H10 were available online and B) the STs were a reservation and not a sale.

Good thing nobody flipped a ST release. Oh wait...

Ah yes, the ol’ “It was a reservation not a sale” thing. What’s the difference between reserving the watch and paying later when you pick it up, or paying now and picking it up later? In fact, I think this tactic actually induces flipping more than the reservation tactic does. You’ve spent $6500 but have no watch in hand until sometime in November; what if in the first week of October your grail vintage watch comes up for sale? Gotta flip that watch! Whereas with the ST releases, you could cancel the res or turn it down at pickup time, and off it goes to the waitlist.

Of course people flipped the ST - but I’d wager (and what I’ve been saying this whole time, speaking into the void apparently) that a much higher percentage of the Hodinkee watches went to people buying on the hype hoping to flip, than did the Speedy Tuesdays.

BLAUGRANA · Sep 7, 2018

abrod520
Just because you don’t like the answer, doesn’t mean it’s not there...

And just because you say it is doesn't mean it is.

abrod520
Ah yes, the ol’ “It was a reservation not a sale” thing. What’s the difference between reserving the watch and paying later when you pick it up, or paying now and picking it up later? In fact, I think this tactic actually induces flipping more than the reservation tactic does. You’ve spent $6500 but have no watch in hand until sometime in November; what if in the first week of October your grail vintage watch comes up for sale? Gotta flip that watch! Whereas with the ST releases, you could cancel the res or turn it down at pickup time, and off it goes to the waitlist.

Of course people flipped the ST - but I’d wager (and what I’ve been saying this whole time, speaking into the void apparently) that a much higher percentage of the Hodinkee watches went to people buying on the hype hoping to flip, than did the Speedy Tuesdays.

It's a fact. A reservation is not a sale. The difference is that not everyone is paying later where as with the H10 everyone is paying at least half now and in half the cases the entire amount up front. You may think that, but there is nothing to suggest it. In fact I would argue that with the way the ST releases came out, at least the first one, it induced flipping more because the true grey market was more established for many as the watch was relatively slow to release. Anyway, I don't know why one feels the need to compare them really.

You've not been speaking into the void, you've simply posted something without anything to back it up.

Mad Dog · Sep 7, 2018

vbrad26
At this rate the standard, modern hesalite Speedy will become the "limited edition".

arcadelt · Sep 7, 2018

...and with that, I'm unfollowing this thread.

nbsheeran · Sep 7, 2018

What is the over/under on percentage of H10 buyers (either via H or an OB) that bought it purely to flip, once they saw it was a LE of 500 pieces?

I'm going to go with 75%

BlackTalon · Sep 8, 2018

N nbsheeran
What is the over/under on percentage of H10 buyers (either via H or an OB) that bought it purely to flip, once they saw it was a LE of 500 pieces?

I will admit to having the urge to buy one just on the premise of being able to quickly resell it to a Hodinkee follower for more $, even though I have not tried doing this before. Surely there are >500 Hodinkee followers who will buy if given the chance because, well, there are many blind followers. But I can definitely see the price tanking on these in a couple of months.

lillatroll · Sep 8, 2018

Dedalus05
Not sure what my point is, but if Omega Forums produce an LE it is not unimaginable I might get caught in the hype and buy one (I browse here daily). So I can understand how and why this was produced and sold so fast.

I can t imagine why any of the mods on this forum would entertain the idea of wanting an OF watch, they would probably end up in an asylum at the end of it, one wrong colour choice, or non applied logo and you're history. Even more carnage if they put it to the vote of the members. An idea probably best left in the suggestion box.

boltman · Sep 8, 2018

Wow, seems a lot of wasted energy spent on strong criticism. It's Hodinkees anniversary, he can put out whatever he wants to celebrate it. I bought it, have enjoyed 10 years of free insight from him. Plus thought it was unique, even if it is not completely my style. If I just get half back on resale that's more than most watches bring. As romantic as it is to buy what you like, it's nice to not get absolutely crushed if you have to sell it. I'll take a chance on this one, enjoy it, and if I get tired of it, sell it. Betting that cost of ownership will be far less than a majority of watches.

dwboston · Sep 8, 2018

boltman
Wow, seems a lot of wasted energy spent on strong criticism. It's Hodinkees anniversary, he can put out whatever he wants to celebrate it. I bought it, have enjoyed 10 years of free insight from him. Plus thought it was unique, even if it is not completely my style. If I just get half back on resale that's more than most watches bring. As romantic as it is to buy what you like, it's nice to not get absolutely crushed if you have to sell it. I'll take a chance on this one, enjoy it, and if I get tired of it, sell it. Betting that cost of ownership will be far less than a majority of watches.

On the surface, the whole idea seems ridiculous - a watch to celebrate the 10 year anniversary of a blog, the design of which was chosen because it sort of resembles a watch given to the blog founder by his grandfather. It just seems like a really odd thing on which to base an LE. I was confused when I first saw the story linked here by Robert-Jan then saw the Twitter post and email from Omega. My first inclination was to check and make sure it wasn't April 1st. I have no interest in the watch, but to each his own. The one thing about the whole situation that interests me is the idea of individual customization of watches direct from Omega. I'd love to design my own Speedy - that has to be where this is going in the future.

Reborn · Sep 8, 2018

BlackTalon · Sep 8, 2018

dwboston
The one thing about the whole situation that interests me is the idea of individual customization of watches direct from Omega. I'd love to design my own Speedy - that has to be where this is going in the future.

I think the LE of 100 #PCASpeedy illustrated that. As long as the $ works for Omega they seem to be willing to do it.

dwboston · Sep 8, 2018

BlackTalon
I think the LE of 100 #PCASpeedy illustrated that. As long as the $ works for Omega they seem to be willing to do it.

I know the analogy isn't perfect because of volume and price point, but something like NikeID for a watch. Allow the individual to choose from a pre-selected list of dials, sub-dials, hands, straps/bracelets, etc. I'd pay a premium for that, and Omega would probably realize higher accessory sales as well, as people added additional straps, etc.

cicindela · Sep 8, 2018

lillatroll
I can t imagine why any of the mods on this forum would entertain the idea of wanting an OF watch, they would probably end up in an asylum at the end of it, one wrong colour choice, or non applied logo and you're history. Even more carnage if they put it to the vote of the members. An idea probably best left in the suggestion box.

Dedalus05
Gonna chime in as a newbie here. I'm in the market for a Speedy. Will likely pick one up in the next few weeks. It won't be this one. Not in a million years.

Right now I'm leaning heavily towards a FOIS (size, uncluttered dial, heritage etc).

Not sure what my point is, but if Omega Forums produce an LE it is not unimaginable I might get caught in the hype and buy one (I browse here daily). So I can understand how and why this was produced and sold so fast.

But OF mods - if the time comes please show some restraint with the hands & dial. A baby should never be as hard to love as that thing.

Slow down there tigers , Just because a Mod makes a joke about an Omegaforums LE, does not mean we are serious or crazy enough to entertain it.
We totally deny the possibility, and besides Ashley has already claimed number o1 🙄

auxpomme · Sep 8, 2018

All of the fonts and all of the colors. All on one watch.

mmdl8 · Sep 8, 2018

I prefer the original with the added complications. Also, at pre-owned prices, the original offers great value for money.

dafuture · Sep 9, 2018

As a general watch enthusiast, I've only recently become interested in the Speedmaster and its history. As a result, I don't feel the same amount of passion or frustration many of you on here feel with the H10. I will say I've been somewhat surprised at how vehemently some people have objected to the design of this watch.

I can certainly understand the irritation with the constant string of LEs that have been coming out of Omega. I'll admit that I've questioned it myself, as some of them seem to lack any sort of real meaning (I'm looking at you CK Panda dial). I seem to view the Hodinkee LE through a different lens. While I understand the inspiration for this design was the MK40 and Ben Clymer's grandfather, I choose not to see this as a simple homage.

Rather than dig into the exact design choices, I prefer to take it for what it is: a watch celebrating the anniversary of a very successful watch publication. The specific elements are purely personal: the cut off numerals don't bother me, nor do the "parts bin" hands or missing functionality vs. the MK40. As an entire design, I simply find it to be a fun, sporty chrono with the bones of a Speedmaster. It reminds me of the same nautical vibe as seen on the Skipper, a watch I sorely regret not purchasing when I had the chance.

I completely respect those of you who find the design unattractive or the story behind it less than compelling. But as Robert-Jan said earlier, I don't understand the need to bash what Hodinkee's done here.

Omega Speedmaster Hodinkee 10th Anniversary Limited Edition

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