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Omega Speedmaster Apollo 11 50th Anniversary in Steel - Expectations

  1. Bp1000 Mar 13, 2019

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    I flippin hope so!! (no pun intended)
     
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  2. cfracing Mar 13, 2019

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    Correction. After further investigation I read that Cernan took two watches on Apollo XVII, his issued 105.012 and his personal 105.003. However, he most likely wore the issued 105.012 while on the surface of the moon.
     
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  3. hundredwaters Mar 13, 2019

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    It is supposed to be two-tone
     
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  4. watcholone Mar 13, 2019

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    Either it's a remake of Buzz Aldrin's ST 105.012 (with the new 3861 movement)
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    (if Omega get's a little more creative) something else. Two-Tone as mentioned by hundredwaters would be interesting as the 50th anniversary is a golden anniversary.

    tension for sure is rising.
     
  5. Seaborg Mar 13, 2019

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    What about a new Straight Writing caseback ?
     
  6. watcholone Mar 13, 2019

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    If it will be fitted with the new 3861 movement I would expect the see-through-saphire-caseback.
     
  7. Seaborg Mar 13, 2019

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    As I suggested in an early thread on the Apollo 11 anniversary Speedy we could maybe have a double step saphire caseback with the pre-moon sea monster faintly eatched on its surface :rolleyes:
     
  8. 105012 Mar 13, 2019

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    This is correct, all pictures of Gene Cernan on moon walks during Apollo 17 show the Velcro equipped 105.012 on his spacesuit. I don’t think the JB Champion would have been approved for moonwalks?

    This is the fact: The first and last watchs worn on the moon were 105.012’s.
     
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  9. cfracing Mar 13, 2019

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    Is it possible he could have worn the 105.003 under his spacesuit? I am wondering since there is a photo of Cernan wearing both watches in the Apollo XVII command module. I know that in the 321 announcement Omega referred to the Speedmaster ST 105.003 timepiece that astronaut Eugene “Gene” Cernan wore on the moon during the Apollo 17, but not necessarily on the surface of the moon.
     
  10. 105012 Mar 13, 2019

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    What would be the practical reason for doing so? He would not have been able to see it or use it under his spacesuit, it would have been useless. Also, I think safety reasons would have compelled him to remove it because it could become trapped at some point under the suit area near the glove bayonet mount during the walk (or even just uncomfortable) and the only way to fix such an issue would be to return to the LEM, pressurise it (using up precious air), remove the suit (a lengthy undertaking), just to then remove the nuisance watch. Kill a precisely scheduled and choreographed moon walk for a dumb watch? No, far more likely that he would have removed and left it as a spare in the LEM before suiting up.
     
  11. gostang9 Mar 13, 2019

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    I’m always impressed by just how thorough and detailed hypothetical situations can be evaluated, even if the situation was highly unlikely in the first place. ;)
     
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  12. jmarchun Mar 13, 2019

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    As I've mentioned in the other thread on the LE 50th , I've heard ~7k will be available in SS.
     
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  13. 105012 Mar 13, 2019

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    :) Indeed, engineers will always try to run through the possibilities before they happen. Maybe the designers of that aircraft with the software stick pusher to compensate for the aerodynamic changes should have tried out this kind of hypothetical reasonings as well? Less managers and more engineers, sounds good to me...
     
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  14. SpeedyPhill Founder Of Aussie Cricket Blog Mark Waugh Universe Mar 14, 2019

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    Indeed we don't know this for sure...
    However it is possible to wear a wrist watch underneath a space suit... it has been done since 1965. Just check some pre-launch Soyuz photos where several crewmembers often wear a minimum of three wristwatches...
    Personally, I have spoken to some astronauts & cosmonauts and even tried on 5 types spacesuit gloves (Apollo, Orlan-D, Orlan-M, Sokol GP7A and Sokol GP7S) , so I know it can be easily done.
    However, facts are important and to be complete I have to add that American astronauts aboard the ISS- International Space Station are forbidden to wear any jewellery/watches underneath the space suit during EVA!

    This being off-topic, I want to redirect the "discussion" to this topic: https://omegaforums.net/threads/other-watches-used-in-evas.59438/
     
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  15. SpeedyPhill Founder Of Aussie Cricket Blog Mark Waugh Universe Mar 14, 2019

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    Looking forward to see Apollo 11 LMP - Lunar Module Pilot Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin wearing the steel version... soon
    Omega instagram screenshot:
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  16. cfracing Mar 14, 2019

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    Sorry for the digression. I was just trying to establish if the 105.003 could have ever been on the surface of the moon to justify it being used as a basis for the 50th Anniversary watch.
     
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  17. SpeedyPhill Founder Of Aussie Cricket Blog Mark Waugh Universe Mar 14, 2019

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    I understand the moderate excitement about the 50 years Apollo 11 Gold Speedmaster as it's a high end expensive watch and of course...
    de gustibus non est disputandum.
    However I hope Omega realises that revealing the steel watch a tad earlier than BaselWorld2019 might trigger a lot of extra buyers to get one :whistling:
     
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  18. rohnin Mar 15, 2019

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    If the steel one is good, would it cannabalize sales of the gold one already announced?
     
  19. Ree Mar 15, 2019

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    Unlikely. They're entirely two different product tiers.
     
  20. queriver Mar 15, 2019

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    Most steel buyers aren't also buyers of gold (due to appearance, much higher price). A gold buyer may buy steel if they like it, so there wouldn't be cannibalisation.
     
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