Omega Speedmaster 105.003 "blue bezel?"

donkrelle · Jul 25, 2024

hello everyone,

I'm in the process of researching this watch, and may ask for a bit help 😀
The most important question: The blue bezel, does it look real/original to you? I have already found lists documented at which reference numbers this bezel can be found. in my case it's a 105.003-64 - serial number starts with 2655... according to the lists I found something doesn't fit together. Or do I understand something wrong? Is it possible that the housing and movement do not match?

another question: some numbers are engraved on the housing on the back. Does anyone know the meaning of these numbers?

I am still quite new in the Omega world, sorry if I ask things there are already a lot of answers.

thank you, best regards

Donn Chambers · Jul 25, 2024

Don’t know anything about the bezel, but the seconds hand is wrong for this model. It was likely replaced at some point in the past.

The scratching on the lug could be from the previous owner trying to mark it with his name or initials (I can’t read it from the photo) or a watchmaker’s service mark. In the old days, many watchmakers scratched a code on the watch back to mark when they serviced it, but I have seen some where they did it on the back of the lugs.

M'Bob · Jul 25, 2024

These bezels are hard to assess, even in hand, but I’m leaning towards legitimate.

padders · Jul 25, 2024

As you suspect, there is no way that movement left the factory with that case, it’s around 3 years younger. Same with the chrono hand and crown it seems. The problem with the so called blue bezels is that usually they just look a kind of faded grey and often the light has to catch them just right to actually look blue.

140dave · Jul 25, 2024

Bezel looks legit to me.
Subdial hands also look replaced to add to the list of other issues. Movement is the biggest issue.

Aludic · Jul 25, 2024

As many others have pointed out, this is an assembly of multiple watches. Dial, case and caseback are older than the movement, the seconds hand is younger too. Oh, and that bracelet whilst nice, doesn't belong on a Speedmaster either. It originates from another Omega, like a DeVille, Seamaster Chrono or Seamaster 120. Hence the verdict it's an assembly of sorts.

Back to the bezel which indeed seems blue(ish). The reference 105.003-64 is one of the few known to feature a blue bezel a little more commonly. Leads me to believe that the bezel, case and dial might belong together and this could be case of a movement swap.

In spite of all this, I would consider and value it for what it is; a collection of parts.

donkrelle · Jul 26, 2024

Thank you very much for your answers.
That the watch got a new movement I have already guessed correctly. Something couldn't be right there... too bad.

To the engravings, which are located at each corner of the clock and are only numbers. Unfortunately, the jeweler where it was probably bought no longer exists and this will probably remain a mystery. I try again to clearly identify them with a magnifying glass or microscope, they are difficult to read with the naked eye.

The fact that this watch is a "collection of parts" is only of limited importance to me. It has a high emotional value for me and this is what counts in this case.

Donn Chambers · Jul 26, 2024

donkrelle
To the engravings, which are located at each corner of the clock and are only numbers. Unfortunately, the jeweler where it was probably bought no longer exists and this will probably remain a mystery. I try again to clearly identify them with a magnifying glass or microscope, they are difficult to read with the naked eye.

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Each watchmaker uses their own code, so unless you can find that specific watchmaker, you’ll never know what they mean. It was an unfortunate practice to mark up a watch like that, and has been abandoned by most except some real old timers.

Seaborg · Jul 29, 2024

Franken or not, it will be a super super nice everyday watch after a gentle service + crystal polishing 😉

This patina on the dial is quite common on the -64 references (105.012 and 105.003), so I would say the dial is original to the watch, as well as the case and bezel.

I love it 🥰

SOG53 · Jul 30, 2024

Agree its a nice wearable watch, even with the misc parts, which was a common occurrence during "normal" service in past. The bracelet is 1069/524 which was used for a number of Seamaster chrono models and looks good, albeit not Speedy specific.

Omega Speedmaster 105.003 "blue bezel?"

donkrelle

Donn Chambers

M'Bob

padders

140dave

Aludic

donkrelle

Donn Chambers

Seaborg

SOG53

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