Omega SMPc 8800 long term review

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Great review! Could you please provide mirror shots of the watch on your wrist. I have similar wrist size and struggle to decide if it looks ok or a little too big..

Something like this?


What do you think about the fit? Ok? Large? Small?
 
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Nobody has an idea why there is such a difference with my accuracy measurements and the ones measured by METAS?

No idea, but very interesting fact... also because METAS is testing the movement accuracy with the movement already cased... Maybe they just doing like Seiko: they are covering their back but often you will get better real life results!!
 
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Thank you @borre for the great review... I am in the market for a new watch and this Omega is on the top of my list.. However, I got a sudden cash shortage so I may not be able to get it at the moment... a used 2016 model with 2500 movement popped up for sale locally (in Egypt) and I still see it a stunning watch.. but I am not sure what am I loosing when I get the 2500 movement rather than the new 8800 movement?

I need some experienced advice, should I save up and wait to get the new one with 8800 movement or the 2016 one would do it justice with almost half the price of the new one?
 
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Thank you @borre for the great review... I am in the market for a new watch and this Omega is on the top of my list.. However, I got a sudden cash shortage so I may not be able to get it at the moment... a used 2016 model with 2500 movement popped up for sale locally (in Egypt) and I still see it a stunning watch.. but I am not sure what am I loosing when I get the 2500 movement rather than the new 8800 movement?

I need some experienced advice, should I save up and wait to get the new one with 8800 movement or the 2016 one would do it justice with almost half the price of the new one?

Buy the one you really want! If it means waiting longer it will be worth it. Which one will be a keeper for life?
 
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Buy the one you really want! If it means waiting longer it will be worth it. Which one will be a keeper for life?
As of now... I feel if I go either way, it will be a keeper.. from visual perspective, I have no concern on the 2016 model. Actually I feel the smaller size fits my wrist better. I am just afraid I miss a lot by not getting the 8800 movement
 
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I think the timing deviation is due to your using an ap instead of a timegrapher which is more precise.
 
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Just bought mine last week. I try to wear it close to 24/7 myself. According to the atomic clock I'm 1-2seconds fast a day. Interesting to see if I let it go a week if that changes plus or minus... I'm just obsessed over how accurate it is so far lol. My metas results are similar to yours so I'm doing better I think! Great review, and I totally agree w/ you on the waves. I went into the AD thinking I was going to pick up a PO, but walked out with a SMP. It just fit better for me.
 
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I think the timing deviation is due to your using an ap instead of a timegrapher which is more precise.
I use a phone app to see NTP time then hit a "measure" button as the watch seconds hand hits the 12 o clock position. Worst case I'm off by a second. If a METAS watch if off by this method by a second or two a day continually.... I'd ask Omega to look at it.
 
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Just bought mine last week. I try to wear it close to 24/7 myself. According to the atomic clock I'm 1-2seconds fast a day. Interesting to see if I let it go a week if that changes plus or minus... I'm just obsessed over how accurate it is so far lol. My metas results are similar to yours so I'm doing better I think! Great review, and I totally agree w/ you on the waves. I went into the AD thinking I was going to pick up a PO, but walked out with a SMP. It just fit better for me.

1-2 spd fast is just fine for a METAS Omega and is essentially Rolex "Superlative Chronometer" measurements. I'd say leave it dial up for 24 hours or on a winder for a day and see what it does.

That said, +1-2 seconds a day worn is excellent.
 
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Before I bought my new SMP 8800 in September, I read every (what I could find) review and watched every YouTube video about the watch. Almost all reviews and YouTube videos are of new owners or reviewers that have the watch on loan from an AD. Until now, I think what is missing is a review after a couple of months daily usage of this watch. This is exactly what I will do in this post… my thoughts after more than 3 months of daily (and nightly) wear of the SMPc 8800. I will try to be as honest as possible… but as an owner you are always biased to some extend…



WAVES

My first feelings with the watch after seeing the first pictures after Baselworld were mixed. I liked everything, but the wave pattern on the dial gave me some doubts. Still today, I don't like the waves on pictures, but in real life, everything changed! In reality the waves are much less of an eye catcher than on pictures, much more subtle. I can say I even like the waves, the way the dial catches light and reflects is different each time, depending on the angle. Sometimes the waves are very light gray, sometimes deep black… It' s definitely not a boring watch. The waves don't give a too busy impression, this was one of my fears before getting the watch.



DIAL

The rest of the dial is superb… The big raised indices go very well with the updated skeleton hands. The legibility is top! Before I saw the watch in the metal, I had some doubts on the second track, but eventually nothing to dislike. The new position of the date window is a positive change according to me, the dial is very balanced because of this. What I also like is that the date window has no frame, very minimalistic, goes very well on this dial. Some regret the absence of an applied Omega logo, but on this dial with already bold indices, I think it's good the logo isn't applied. It would make the dial a little busier than needed.

The red accents on the dial look fantastic on the ceramic black background.



CRYSTAL

The double AR coated crystal looks as if it's not there! Visually it's a stunning crystal. Unfortunately the crystal also leads to the first negative point… After a little over 3 months daily usage, the AR coating has its first scratches. These scratches are very thin, an can only be seen under the correct light angle under LED lights, still… sometimes I do notice them! I was VERY gentle with the watch until now, only wore it at my desk and other 'light' activities. Whenever I thought there was a risk of damaging the watch, I switched watches. My other diver is a TAG Heuer Aquaracer WAN2111. The Aquaracer has a couple of years daily usage, and also has a double AR coated crystal. On the Aquaracer, no scratches can be found in the AR coating! It is still in 100% top condition. I didn't expect this from a new Omega, at least I expected it to be scratch resistant as the TAG. Fortunately, most of the time, this scratches are not visible at all. I tried to get a picture of the scratches, but I don't succeed to get it visible on picture…



BEZEL

The bezel of the new SMP has a very solid feel. What I really don't like is when a bezel is turned unintentionally when hitting or rubbing against something. This has never happened with this bezel. Still it's not too difficult to turn the bezel when you need to turn it. On my watch, there is no play in the bezel and lines up perfectly on the 12 o'clock position. Esthetically the scalloped bezel was one of the reasons to buy this watch, so distinctive… looks beautiful. The ceramic inlay and enamel numbers and indicators have a high quality appearance.



CASE

The case of the Omega is a beauty! The way Omega plays with polished and brushed surfaces is very nice… However, there are some complaints about the size increase of the SMP to 42mm. Personally, this didn't bother me at all until now (for your reference, I have a 17cm wrist). Also the thickness (slightly more than the previous gen SMP) is (again according to my feeling) well balanced with the size of the watch. The SMP doesn’t feel thick on the wrist, nor thin… Just right. I also tried the PO's when buying this watch, there you notice the thickness much more (same with the Tudor Pelagos, that I also tried, feels much thicker).

Another element that created some noise is the update HE valve. Honestly, I hardly notice it is there… Nothing good or bad I can say about it… It's just there and doesn't bother me.

What bothers me (very) slightly is the fact the Omega logo on the crown doesn't line up when screwing in the crown. It’s a small detail, but I can appreciate when the crown logo lines up with the case.

Another point of improvement is the combination lugs + endlink. There is just this tiny bit of space on one side of the endlink and lug. I prefer that this is a really tight fit. In my opinion, this is something Rolex does better.



BRACELET

Talking about endlinks brings us to the bracelet. The bracelet has a unique design, something you don't see on every second watch.

You either like this design or you don't. I love it… The bracelet comes with two half links, very easy to get a good fit. To get the fit perfect, the clasp comes with 6 micro adjustment positions that you move with a push on the button, very convenient. The bracelet + watch wears very comfortable (I wear the SMP 24/7).



MOVEMENT and ACCURACY

One of the features I love on this watch is the display case back. Although a lot of people prefer a steel case back on a diver I like the fact I can admire the 8800 movement. So far the 8800 is keeping great time. My SMP loses between 1 and 1,5 second per day. Now this brings us at a very strange thing… according to my METAS test results, my clock averaged + 2,8 seconds per day during the METAS test. The +2,8 seconds per day, is the average rate of the 6 positions they measure (equally weighted). Still, the -1,5 is very far away from the METAS test results, and that made me curious… how is this possible (yes I know the 2,8 is an average…). I started measuring myself (test cycles of 24 hours per position) the 6 positions, this is what I measured:
  • DIAL UP : -3,2 s/d
  • DIAL DOWN : +3,0 s/d
  • 12 UP : -1,9 s/d
  • 6 UP : -3,2 s/d
  • 3 UP : -0,1 s/d
  • 9 UP : +0,5 s/d
When I average my test results, I get -0,82 seconds/day. This is VERY far of the +2,8 seconds per day tested by METAS. I really wonder how this is possible. Anyone an idea? Please post in the comments. I can also tell you that the rate didn't change over the last 3 months, it's very stable.

My tests results -0,82 s/d is closer to what I see in reality (-1 to -1,5) with my wearing habits. Preferably the clock should run a little fast instead of slow, but at this point in time I don't mind this too much. I don't think it's worth it to get it regulated, maybe I get it back at +3 s/d, worse than it runs today.

Another impressive feature of the movement is the date change, on my clock the date flips over between 105 and 90 seconds before midnights and it does this consistently, very nice!

I only let it run until empty on one occasion, the 8800 stopped after 60 hours. 5 hours more than the advertised 55 hours.



LUME

Lume is great! When not properly charged, the lume on the hands is less visible, except for the tip of the hands where there is more lume.



CONCLUSION

The new SMP 8800 is a stunner! Except for the AR coating sensitivity and the deviation of the accuracy compared to the METAS tests I don't have any complaints about the watch so far.

Mine is already collecting some minor scratches on the bracelet, but that’s the life of a daily wearer, isn't it?

Do you have other experiences with this watch, or remarks on my review, let me know below.

1 YEAR UPDATE

After one year of ownership and (almost) daily wear, I don't have much new to add...
The accuracty hasn't changed. It is just a fraction slow, but face down it speeds up a little bit.
The AR coating seems to be the most sensitive part of the watch. In most lighting the (very very) small scratches in the AR coating are not visible, but under very bright halogen light and the 'correct' angle, they become visible. Still, the AR coating is an added value, under most conditions the crystal is invisible.
I love the bracelet on this watch, unique design, lot's of options to adjust and very comfortable.

Still very happy with the Seamaster! Definitely a keeper...

2 YEARS UPDATE

2 years and one month have flown by with this one on the wrist!
I love the lume on this watch, but I noticed that it might fade a little bit faster than on other comparable watches.
On my 1 year update, I told the AR coating seems to pick up micro scratches. I managed to take a picture of this (see below). On the picture it looks a lot worse then it is in reality, you have to find the right angle to see these micro scratches in the AR coating. Any one else who noticed this? Am I the only one?

Nice review and thanks for the updates. It’s hard to find long-term write-ups.

I recently found a scratch in the crystal of my black SMP. Mine also runs about a second or two per day slow. Of course that’s no big deal. I just set it 5 seconds fast, and by the time I’m ready to rotate to a different watch it’s still close enough that there’s no issue. I also agree that the He valve disappears after a couple of days.

I had a black one for a while and came across a deal on a blue one I couldn’t pass up. My wife surprised me at Christmas with a white one. The black one’s on the bracelet, but the others are on straps.
 
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Nice review and thanks for the updates. It’s hard to find long-term write-ups.

I recently found a scratch in the crystal of my black SMP. Mine also runs about a second or two per day slow. Of course that’s no big deal. I just set it 5 seconds fast, and by the time I’m ready to rotate to a different watch it’s still close enough that there’s no issue. I also agree that the He valve disappears after a couple of days.

I had a black one for a while and came across a deal on a blue one I couldn’t pass up. My wife surprised me at Christmas with a white one. The black one’s on the bracelet, but the others are on straps.

The scratch is in the AR coating on the top of the crystal.

How do the Blue and White ones run?
 
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What a great review. I just purchased one with the blue dial a few days ago and I think it is beautiful. I only have one concern. The lumen of the hands especially the minute hand is almost impossible to see. I'm pretty disappointed with that. I wonder if that is normal or acceptable. I like everything else about it. Two years ago I purchased a Tag Heuer Aquaracer that I like a lot too. Not as nice as this Omega though. I really did not need another watch but I couldn't resist this beautiful one.
 
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What a great review. I just purchased one with the blue dial a few days ago and I think it is beautiful. I only have one concern. The lumen of the hands especially the minute hand is almost impossible to see. I'm pretty disappointed with that. I wonder if that is normal or acceptable. I like everything else about it. Two years ago I purchased a Tag Heuer Aquaracer that I like a lot too. Not as nice as this Omega though. I really did not need another watch but I couldn't resist this beautiful one.

HI, the Aquaracer has great lume for sure, the SMP has its iconic skeleton hands, while they look cool they are not the brightest, but that's something you learn to live with, enjoy your new watch
 
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Hi Omega fans!
I am new here, I own SMP blue steel on steel and I am browsing web for some nice leather straps....but what is more interresing for me is, that some of you have posted their master chronometre certificate so I will do it too....second picture is real life measuring. If watch is worn it goes very good and when it is on table sometimes it gaining some seconds sometimes loosing... I dont know if it is good or bad .... you told me please.
 
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Hi Omega fans!
I am new here, I own SMP blue steel on steel and I am browsing web for some nice leather straps....but what is more interresing for me is, that some of you have posted their master chronometre certificate so I will do it too....second picture is real life measuring. If watch is worn it goes very good and when it is on table sometimes it gaining some seconds sometimes loosing... I dont know if it is good or bad .... you told me please.


Wow gaining less than .5 seconds a day. Absolutely outstanding. This thing is actually hitting quartz watch accuracy.

Fwiw the only accuracy that you should care about is when it's worn normally. Ex. On the wrist 8-18 hours a day and in a nightstand at night. A watch ticking away on a table away from you is as useful as a watch that's not ticking at all.

For mechanical watches, I don't rate them on tabletop accuracy. I care about worn accuracy and winder accuracy for them.

Quartz is different as they'll tick for 3-10 years in a battery or longer if they're solar sitting in a watch box.
 
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I was scared at first when I saw that Metas data.....7s daily .... but in reality its not so bad.
 
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I was scared at first when I saw that Metas data.....7s daily .... but in reality its not so bad.
That’s the delta not the daily rate. There’s a huge difference.

A delta of 7 seconds across all the adjusted positions is pretty good.
 
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well as I told I do not understand those numbers, but if you are saying its good then its probably good