Wouldn’t the movement number of 20,318,767 put it closer to 1963 than 1970 as stated? Don’t shoot, just asking.
It's like a parallel universe where buyer's due diligence doesn't exist- mind bending really
I'm not sure I understand what you just said... something may have been lost in translation?
I did not criticize the auction house wording. Such a toolwatch having its movement replaced surely do not shock me. As I understand this specific item, you mainly pay for the dial and caseback anyway.
I'm saying that for most of us here when we buy an expensive vintage Omega we are concerned about movement swaps/frankens/etc. The majority find an Extract reassuring regarding the authenticity of the watch and at least that the movement originally came with the case reference. Most wouldn't bother with a watch where the movement had been swapped out unless it was cheap.
This in total contrast to the watch and auction in question where a watch with no Extract and a movement which falls way too early and way out of line with other documented mil 300's sells for a world record. Hence an alternative collecting universe where due diligence doesn't seem to exist.
I'm saying that for most of us here when we buy an expensive vintage Omega we are concerned about movement swaps/frankens/etc. The majority find an Extract reassuring regarding the authenticity of the watch and at least that the movement originally came with the case reference. Most wouldn't bother with a watch where the movement had been swapped out unless it was cheap.
This in total contrast to the watch and auction in question where a watch with no Extract and a movement which falls way too early and way out of line with other documented mil 300's sells for a world record. Hence an alternative collecting universe where due diligence doesn't seem to exist.
I entirely agree with you. I wish also that auction houses were less slick with words and they would tell it like it is clearly (for this watch, likely a replacement movement).
I also find the price ludicrous and not in line with the quality of this specific watch, but that is just me and I'm no authority on SM300s. My remark concerning the movement meant that a military SM300 with a swapped movement is not shocking to me in general (they lived a hard life in the water!), but @200k+ that is another story entirely... as I said, that is 200K paid for a caseback and a dial, mostly. 😲 😒 Strange.
i think the guy who bought does exactly know what he got ....
So you think the chances are low to see him/her opening another « Hi, did I make a good deal? » thread? 🙁
i think the guy who bought does exactly know what he got ....
I don't know what's more crazy. The Phillips resultat or the authenticity laundering of the W10 #324, going up for auction tomorrow.
We all know that parts, in most cases, have been swapped back in the days on these, but sometimes not all swaps were made by MoD, but instead done by a recent consignor/seller of sade watch - without stating that of course 🫨
The #324 was actually sold in a WoK auction in 2018 and then passed in a Fortuna auction in 2019. That watch is on the right below! And now in the Capes Dunn auction tomorrow is has gotten a "correct" dial (on the left below). The more sought after BT thin T dial. So now some, again, will refer to this as fact and will say that the W10's allways came with a BT dial. Well, fun and games 😗
The seller didn't even bother to change the strap, the scratched up crystal or anything else. Just the dial.
Would you care if you didn't know? Maybe not, and some will say that the seller just returned the watch to it's original (and more valuable) state... right 🤦 Anyway, if you care, now you know 😉
Be careful out there
