Omega pocket watch, what did I impulse buy?

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@sheepdoll has a rather dismissive attitude to American-made pocket watches. She is obviously not aware that American watchmakers, and manufacturers of watch making machinery, taught the Swiss how to manufacture a quality watch that was consistent in performance, and uniform in tolerances so that spare parts could be made available. Too bad that some folks who don’t know what they are talking about, shoot from the lip! @sheepdoll should learn about the evolution of watches before running off at the mouth as she did in her previous post. Waste your time on rusty AS 1187s and battered Swiss stuff, and leave the rest to us serious collectors,

Not so much dismissive as bored.

I have shelf of books on the subject. As I said this was written with tung in cheek sarcasm. Switzerland did not exist before 1880. I actually did recently sell a Swiss 'fake' on eBay. 'A trainman's special'

My point was more that I have been wanting an Omega only PW thread. There are plenty whom enjoy PWs (and I have in the past.) My old collector friends really liked such things. I spent years hearing and toting the line about the great American industry of the 1850s railroads and such. While this started in humor I now feel I am on eggshells as some of this could be taken the wrong way as there is a lot of bashing in this day and age of 'Civil War American industry.' And the price paid. Perhaps that is the nature of things.

I also know from those books on the shelf in the 1880s people who could not speak English in the 1850s through 1880s were deported to Swizerland as it was lawless constantly invaded and the worst country in. Curiously 40,000 dumped Italian refugees emigrated and founded this state of California. Including Sutter who flew the Swiss flag and Ghiradelli who brought chocolate to sell the gold miners, and made a fortune.

We all want to share what excites us.

Sometimes we share too much.
 
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If you are bored, ditch the rusty 1187s.
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Not sure I follow. Would you rather I destroy an Appleton, Tracy and company?

I burned out on American pocket watches 20 years ago. It is what it is.

Sure it would have been nice if our ancestors cared for their watches and passed them down. At the risk of more eggshells it would have been nice for them to have cared about this planet as well. And not by banning everything and re-writing history.

Problem is we stop listening when certain trigger words happen. I should not have used the word pollute. I binged watched 'Good Omens' and have been reading the book. (BTW it is pestilence not pollution. Oh the irony, the irony.) So perhaps that onomatopoeia was on my mind.

I love Victorian imagery as much as anyone. It is probable I was a steampunk influencer in the 1980s. Yet would not find it preferable to return to the days of the horse and buggy and that sound.

I just hope I do not metaphorically have to eat it.
 
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Some of us have family pieces and only wish that someone who cared serviced them in the past. The circa 1883 18S William Ellery I had, which my sister now has, was so botched and abused that the chances of it keeping time are not great, which is a damned dirty shame.

There's something special about carrying your great-grandfather's watch that you paid to have restored after decades as your cousins' toy.

Did you know in the early days that some Swiss makers counterfieted the American makers?

This was supposed to be a technical thread. I like technical threads.

I gave my cousin's kid his grandfathers longenes. I think it amazing when such things can be passed on. I think my Uncle who died last year had his fathers watches. They disappeared. I have a large family with 25 first cousins.

My aunt's Husband (uncle) really did appreciate that I could clean and fix the watch. I am glad his grandson has it now.
 
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Not sure I follow. Would you rather I destroy an Appleton, Tracy and company?

I burned out on American pocket watches 20 years ago. It is what it is.

Sure it would have been nice if our ancestors cared for their watches and passed them down. At the risk of more eggshells it would have been nice for them to have cared about this planet as well. And not by banning everything and re-writing history.

Problem is we stop listening when certain trigger words happen. I should not have used the word pollute. I binged watched 'Good Omens' and have been reading the book. (BTW it is pestilence not pollution. Oh the irony, the irony.) So perhaps that onomatopoeia was on my mind.

I love Victorian imagery as much as anyone. It is probable I was a steampunk influencer in the 1980s. Yet would not find it preferable to return to the days of the horse and buggy and that sound.

I just hope I do not metaphorically have to eat it.

Bafflegab!
 
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Akkk. Someone polluted this thread with an American watch photo. I have lost all interest currently in American pocket watches. There are too many of them. Especially Waltham. I wasted too much time on these. I have a drawer full of them. They are basically only good for railroad nuts and steampunk art. Most of these are 120 years old. Sorting parts is another waste of time. The parts only get in the way and there is no interest on eBay to sell them. The good ones are already collected or are only worth the scrap metal value. They are so large they are basically CLOCKS. (I hope the sarcasm filter is turned on. where is that checkbox again...)

There are things I really wanted to do today. Instead I have been trying to save my spiralsheep web blog. All the wordpress themes are out of date and will not update. Blech I want to draw cartoons and fix watches. Not edit PHP so the next update breaks it all over again. I think I got it somewhat stable. I guess installing and updating wordpress PHP is like working on a pocket watch or clocks. A complete waste of time. Because you will just have to do it all over again and no one cares.

At least we still have Omega. (which are watches worth wasting time on.)

Every broken PW movement I seem to have the older American stuff sans Hamilton. Most are the Elgin and Waltham or American or illinois then drop in quality from there. Such a mess that sometimes it's hard to believe we got where we are in 1 piece.
 
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This was supposed to be a technical thread. I like technical threads.
Do you really think that these watches are technical only? Every one of us has an emotional connection to either our personal history or our new, chosen history.

Threads drift. Sun rises. Moon changes phase.

Feel me now?
 
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Every broken PW movement I seem to have the older American stuff sans Hamilton. Most are the Elgin and Waltham or American or illinois then drop in quality from there. Such a mess that sometimes it's hard to believe we got where we are in 1 piece.

I think I saw somewhere that swatch group now owns the Hamilton brand.

The numbers of watches manufactured are incomprehensible.

Since I am thinking of it, someone else is as well. And this would be an AI/AR system for the restoration of these watches. Before I got burned out I put in years of study. As I say I am often wrong. I also think as I get older I misremember things or come from an alternate universe.
 
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Do you really think that these watches are technical only? Every one of us has an emotional connection to either our personal history or our new, chosen history.

Threads drift. Sun rises. Moon changes phase.

Feel me now?

I am the one that names my watches. Of course watches are emotion.

Somewhere I have an Elgin 'Turnip.' made from random parts not unlike the El Rusto Wakmann. Amazing that the parts are so well made they fit together.
 
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I don't name my watches -- I have enough cats for crazy name to go around.

Since I'm just starting out for the most part, any technical information is good for me, so let's try not to make this a battle. American or European, just makes me think of an unladen swallow ala Monty Python jokes.

Hell, I've already learned 3 things in this thread about watch repair, so keep it coming!