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jaegodylan
·It was issued with a cloth strap though some airmen may have added their own bracelet.
Omega Military Watch
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JimInOz
··Melbourne AustraliaHey, sorry. I forgot my manners. 🙁
Thanks for the info guys.
Wasn't the Bonklip also a type of after market addition at the time? Or did these watches come issued with them?
Bonklips were service issue for RAF and RN Fleet Air Arm for about twenty years. They were favoured due to the ability to quickly change from a bare wrist bracelet to an over the cuff one.
Ed: I'll see if I can find the reference, sure I have it in my links somewhere.
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jaegodylan
·These are a good option
https://af0210strap.com/product/6b-2617-strap/
Or just about any ole thing will do. I like this perlon strap.
https://af0210strap.com/product/6b-2617-strap/
Or just about any ole thing will do. I like this perlon strap.
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JimInOz
··Melbourne AustraliaBonklips were service issue for RAF and RN Fleet Air Arm for about twenty years. They were favoured due to the ability to quickly change from a bare wrist bracelet to an over the cuff one.
Ed: I'll see if I can find the reference, sure I have it in my links somewhere.
Here we go, one of the best articles and links to others.
https://www.mcbroom.biz/PMWF/Bonklip-bracelets.htm
By the way, Bonklips are el cheapo shit bracelets and only an idiot would buy them, but as I take pity on idiots, I'll be happy to accept any Bonklip donations.
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Franco
·Achim (watchyouwant) is the one who restored my thin arrow dial one (radium) about 20 years ago - if he does not tell something is because does not want.
I have all versions, including the Bienne restored one with thin arrow and Luminova, and the MOD Dial with fat arrow and tritium. I use them as everyday watches because of the great wearability and ease of read for my old eyes.
I would suggest a nice NATO strap or an open ended pigskin strap - as suitable as a Bonklip BUT without mowing your wrist hair or consuming the lugs.
I also would suggest you embrace the spirit of this forum, there is great knowledge on tap if you approach in the right way.
Your watch seems correct and I would go ahead with the purchase
I have all versions, including the Bienne restored one with thin arrow and Luminova, and the MOD Dial with fat arrow and tritium. I use them as everyday watches because of the great wearability and ease of read for my old eyes.
I would suggest a nice NATO strap or an open ended pigskin strap - as suitable as a Bonklip BUT without mowing your wrist hair or consuming the lugs.
I also would suggest you embrace the spirit of this forum, there is great knowledge on tap if you approach in the right way.
Your watch seems correct and I would go ahead with the purchase
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size11s
·@watchyouwant was spot on really. It is one of the easiest watches to research on the internet and all the info was to hand. To ask others opinions without having formed your own and then expressed your concerns (or not) is very easily seen as lazy. Just saying "I like it" does not count as a valid opinion when asking for others in this scenario. I think it would be a widely held expectation in a forum such as this that if you were genuinely interested in the watch that you would enjoy the research and learning the details that make it an interesting watch, particularly as it's an issued military watch whose value is very much based in it's history.
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Franco
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Actually not recalled by Omega but the Ministry of Defence. As they had their own watchmakers , and a couple of external rediallers, they did almost all in house. These watches of course needed to be cleaned and regulated regularly, and at the same time dials were changed according to 1957 radiation Act. Some escaped the process, some went to the RAAF or Canadian air force.
Note the “doo-hickey”, i.e. the little tin circle who was pushing the dust cover against the case, so closing the Faraday cage around the movement. Dials are in soft iron, and the watch was so antimagnetic.
Come on people. Seriously !!!!!
…///…informative post, I had no idea these watches had been recalled by the factory.
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Actually not recalled by Omega but the Ministry of Defence. As they had their own watchmakers , and a couple of external rediallers, they did almost all in house. These watches of course needed to be cleaned and regulated regularly, and at the same time dials were changed according to 1957 radiation Act. Some escaped the process, some went to the RAAF or Canadian air force.
Note the “doo-hickey”, i.e. the little tin circle who was pushing the dust cover against the case, so closing the Faraday cage around the movement. Dials are in soft iron, and the watch was so antimagnetic.
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redpcar
·You've checked all the boxes for me to keep reading:
set avatar pic (check)
chasing cool watch (check)
aim double barrel shotgun at one of the most knowledgeable members (check)
didn't get pissed, take the marbles and go home (check)
Welcome. I hope you stay. I think you'll have fun. ☕
set avatar pic (check)
chasing cool watch (check)
aim double barrel shotgun at one of the most knowledgeable members (check)
didn't get pissed, take the marbles and go home (check)
Welcome. I hope you stay. I think you'll have fun. ☕
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Franco
·I will check on the article of the British Horological Journal, some 10 yrs ago - should have it. I may be mistaking with the facility for the IWC and JLC mk XIs , will report back. I think Mountfichet was/is near bishop Stortford.
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Revo
·I will check on the article of the British Horological Journal, some 10 yrs ago - should have it. I may be mistaking with the facility for the IWC and JLC mk XIs , will report back. I think Mountfichet was/is near bishop Stortford.
Thanks. Burford would have been my first guess, followed by Herstmonceux - but always happy to to learn.
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Franco
·Ok, for the JLC and IWC MkXI it is clear that batches of watches would go between Herstmonceaux and Greenwich testing lab - did not understand if the Royal Observatory had an outpost lab in the base itself.
For the RAF 1953 I remember it was discussed in MWR the name of the outside contractors to redial them, I seem to think it was somebody called Davis or Davies. As for the name of the base, do not know where I got Mountfichet from - may be I have imagined it.
For the RAF 1953 I remember it was discussed in MWR the name of the outside contractors to redial them, I seem to think it was somebody called Davis or Davies. As for the name of the base, do not know where I got Mountfichet from - may be I have imagined it.
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ConElPueblo
·The truth is a lot of you are so up yourselves it's scary. In case you didn't realise, newcomers are exactly that. If you don't welcome them and accept that they have to start somewhere and they will have the normal novice shortcomings and will make mistakes, then they'll always stay newcomers.
Perhaps that's just what you want?
They way I went from newcomer to someone who helps newcomers was not to ask a lot of questions, it was doing a lot of reading.
While the tone can be fairly caustic at times, set yourself in the position of someone who has several times answered in-depth on various issues, several times the same relatively basic question asked by different, new members. Often people will get their answers, lose interest in a year or so and just drop out and never use the knowledge nor pass it on.
It wears you down...
I will suggest browsing the forum either by using the search engine on the site or google (add "site: omegaforums.net after the search words) or, if seeking general knowledge, by starting at the oldest threads on the Vintage Omega Watches subforum and working your way to present day.
Asking questions which has been answered many, many times before could be seen as a bit neglicent of the effort spent by older members.
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timecube
·As a still-new person who joined with a few questions, did a little research, and got all my questions answered before I made it to my first post, then lost interest ~6 months in due to repeatedly jumping in to offer unhelpful advice (more often than not, bad advice), I must say, it's rough being on the other side too. 🤦 I would like to pass on useful knowledge, however going to the effort of learning enough to actually be useful, really IS a chore!
(In my case, eventually curiosity and "wanting to help" brought me back. Time will tell, if my greater error was in leaving or in returning.)
(In my case, eventually curiosity and "wanting to help" brought me back. Time will tell, if my greater error was in leaving or in returning.)
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size11s
·Honestly? Is it so difficult to offer advice and knowledge without trying to undermine a person's character.
Come on !! "I like it", is that really so bad - As with most things, it's generally something that pleases the eye first that eventually works its way to the heart.
Of course I am interested in the history, my son is in the forces and I see this as a potential heir loom. And yes, I have done some research, but surely talking to this forum should be part of that journey. I shouldn't relly be required to have to explain myself. Perhaps it's part of your induction process.
So far the spirit of this forum appears to be more about blowing smoke up your own backsides and chopping the legs out of anyone who is trying to get to grips with this fascinating and complicated vintage watch market.
The truth is a lot of you are so up yourselves it's scary. In case you didn't realise, newcomers are exactly that. If you don't welcome them and accept that they have to start somewhere and they will have the normal novice shortcomings and will make mistakes, then they'll always stay newcomers.
Perhaps that's just what you want?
OK. Let's start by remembering that I initially gave my opinion that I thought the watch looked all good (in my limited experience, I haven't owned one but have observed them a little over the years) and even gave an approximate market value. An opinion that was asked for by you and then not acknowledged at all.
Then it appears that you had actually done your research so knew that the watch was OK and probably knew it's market value too. So basically you just wanted lots of folk to say "nice watch, you should buy it" to give you assurance of your potential purchase.
So, my apologies for misunderstanding you. I thought that you wanted an opinion on whether the watch was 'correct' and in nice condition and perhaps to discuss that. This would be a discussion that required more input from you, what you felt might be right or wrong, that isn't "explaining yourself", it's being more precise about what you want out of the discussion, as it could be very wide ranging as can be seen in subsequent posts concerning the MOD dial printing. However, being as you just wanted confirmation of whether it was a superficially nice watch I wish I had just said "yeah, I like it", and left it at that. Nice watch, would make a nice heir loom .
Enjoy the forum.
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Revo
·Great cases on these btw. Made by HF.
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padders
··Oooo subtitles!There are no shortcuts, put in the hours and when you have something to give back, you'll find the community very accommodating and helpful. Up until then, fly by demands for knowledge can often be greeted with a less than friendly response. Particularly if you bite at the first post that suggests you are showing an all too common sense of entitlement.
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timoss
·What a surprise....
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watchyouwant
·Broaden your experience and ask these questions at the Vintage Rolex Forum ( VRF). Rolex has a nice Mil. sub. Good potential Heirloom. Reference 5517.
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Dan S
·Broaden your experience and ask these questions at the Vintage Rolex Forum ( VRF). Rolex has a nice Mil. sub. Good potential Heirloom. Reference 5517.
And only 100x the price of the OP watch. 😁
