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··MWR Tech Support DeptAnother era - but military no less. Air Ministry Omega 6B/159, 1942 issue - kind of speaks for itself. Busy times at RAF...
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Omega Military '53 Thin Arrow (Bienne)
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meganfox17
·Hi @Syrte
Ha6x! I dunno ..maybe its just me but..i feel like... everybody here wants my opinion...
GAWD All Mighty ! Everybody here has Beautiful Omega Military WW2 watches !!!
Ok ..You know the drill. Yes of course that watch was issued by the Air Ministry (A.M) house number 222 in 1942 . I wouldn't be surprised if pilots of the RAF Lancaster Air Bombers btwn 1942-1945 were using these Omega watches.The question is whether your watch is actually a Civilian type issued during WW2 or a real Military deal using genuine Omega parts & movements.
Sir is the watch casing all stainless steel ? ....or...
Is your watch casing ion plated like i'm seeing in the photo ? If it was then it was probably made by Smiths & Omega. This means the movements inside is most likely a 2196 .
A Genuine Omega is all stainless steel almost certainly using a swiss made 2292 but there are exceptions of course...
Your watch could either be a Civilian or Military type ..
The only way to be certain is by opening the back casing and looking inside the case for an engraving marked Dennison 13322 or Dennisteel. If the words Dennison 13322 is present then it favours a military grade rather than a Civilion type . A 2292 case strengthens my belief that the watch was actually worn by a British RAF Bomber pilot conducting Night Bombing Raids over Nazi Germany .... !!
So There You Go..!
P/s To The Big Vintage Omega Guns Please correct Me in anyway ...
I dont know much.. just what i have learned ever since i was a little girl listening to war stories in the living room of my Australian neighbours !
Ha6x! I dunno ..maybe its just me but..i feel like... everybody here wants my opinion...
GAWD All Mighty ! Everybody here has Beautiful Omega Military WW2 watches !!!
Ok ..You know the drill. Yes of course that watch was issued by the Air Ministry (A.M) house number 222 in 1942 . I wouldn't be surprised if pilots of the RAF Lancaster Air Bombers btwn 1942-1945 were using these Omega watches.The question is whether your watch is actually a Civilian type issued during WW2 or a real Military deal using genuine Omega parts & movements.
Sir is the watch casing all stainless steel ? ....or...
Is your watch casing ion plated like i'm seeing in the photo ? If it was then it was probably made by Smiths & Omega. This means the movements inside is most likely a 2196 .
A Genuine Omega is all stainless steel almost certainly using a swiss made 2292 but there are exceptions of course...
Your watch could either be a Civilian or Military type ..
The only way to be certain is by opening the back casing and looking inside the case for an engraving marked Dennison 13322 or Dennisteel. If the words Dennison 13322 is present then it favours a military grade rather than a Civilion type . A 2292 case strengthens my belief that the watch was actually worn by a British RAF Bomber pilot conducting Night Bombing Raids over Nazi Germany .... !!
So There You Go..!
P/s To The Big Vintage Omega Guns Please correct Me in anyway ...
I dont know much.. just what i have learned ever since i was a little girl listening to war stories in the living room of my Australian neighbours !
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Syrte
··MWR Tech Support Depthi Megan, a valiant effort but this one didn't involve Dennison or Smiths, or anyone else than Omega. It's a rare, all Omega stainless steel military watch, with an Omega movement 30T2SC.
Just to be clear however, I was answering a request to show military Omegas for those who like to see them, and not in need of validation 😁
Just to be clear however, I was answering a request to show military Omegas for those who like to see them, and not in need of validation 😁
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rbob99
·Syrte: A very nice watch, indeed. I am a big fan of the 30T2 in its various iterations. Is your watch 35 mm?
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Syrte
··MWR Tech Support DeptHey Rbob99,
This one -- as all of the similar looking 30T2 variants from the same era -- is 32mm, so much smaller than your highly desirable '53. But of course no less interesting to those who like a feisty warrior 😀.
As you may know the MOD had a program in 1956 to recase a lot of those RAF 30T2s (those without the rare all steel case), in sturdier, stainless steel screw-back case, some with white dials and others with black dials -- those are 35-36mm, but yours is still much bigger.
(OF member Agee just sold a 1956 6B on the forum if you'd like to see one).
Congrats on yours, which is quite pristine and beautiful -- a good find, especially considering their rarity! 👍
This one -- as all of the similar looking 30T2 variants from the same era -- is 32mm, so much smaller than your highly desirable '53. But of course no less interesting to those who like a feisty warrior 😀.
As you may know the MOD had a program in 1956 to recase a lot of those RAF 30T2s (those without the rare all steel case), in sturdier, stainless steel screw-back case, some with white dials and others with black dials -- those are 35-36mm, but yours is still much bigger.
(OF member Agee just sold a 1956 6B on the forum if you'd like to see one).
Congrats on yours, which is quite pristine and beautiful -- a good find, especially considering their rarity! 👍
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meganfox17
·Hi @Syrte
Sorry Sir , It was never my intentions to validate your fine timepiece. No doubt that's
"One Hell of A Military Gem !"
On the contrary i just wanted to apply my limited knowledge on everything & anything i see....
All these frustrating Infos were penned.. locked up....in my Brain & i needed a channel to release em' ! Ye' know like a..." Young arrogant combat marine trying to prove her mettle to her Superiors but missing the target by a Mile ..!
But Oh Boy.....! But ..I gain a wealth of knowledge from the Military Veterans here !
Thank You So much Guys !
God Save The Queen !
-Meganfox-
Sorry Sir , It was never my intentions to validate your fine timepiece. No doubt that's
"One Hell of A Military Gem !"
On the contrary i just wanted to apply my limited knowledge on everything & anything i see....
All these frustrating Infos were penned.. locked up....in my Brain & i needed a channel to release em' ! Ye' know like a..." Young arrogant combat marine trying to prove her mettle to her Superiors but missing the target by a Mile ..!
But Oh Boy.....! But ..I gain a wealth of knowledge from the Military Veterans here !
Thank You So much Guys !
God Save The Queen !
-Meganfox-
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davidswiss
·Hi @davidswiss
Hi @rbob99
Hi @JimlnOz
You know i'm fascinated by Omega Vintage Military thin arrow dials & i adore all the watches in this thread. Your watch is in excellant condition.I would be absolutely thrilled if you could show me a pic of the backcasing .....please?
Thanks a Bunch
-Meganfox-
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·Yes..Yes..Yes..@davidswiss
Oh..this should be easy ! Give me some time to study your timepiece Sir . I have to run some errands for Dad now...
Ok Eveybody else can comment about @davidswiss timepiece .....hmmm....Sigh.... Everybody's also free to pounce on my mistakes & kick my behind if needed...!!!
Oh..this should be easy ! Give me some time to study your timepiece Sir . I have to run some errands for Dad now...
Ok Eveybody else can comment about @davidswiss timepiece .....hmmm....Sigh.... Everybody's also free to pounce on my mistakes & kick my behind if needed...!!!
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meganfox17
·Hi @ davidswiss !
Hi Army Veterans !
Hi Non Combatant civilians !
Amazing isnt it ..these vintage military watches are so Rare but seem to pop up in the forum. This is not a validation ok ? @davidswiss has an excellant Omega Military Thin Arrow 53 Vintage British RAF pilot wrist watch calibre 283 batch number 4508/5900 issued in 1953 very original hands & dials. I assume it's around 36 mm without the crown ?
Has the watch been restored ,Sir ? Is that the original lume ? The lume on the hands & dial looks pretty much intact ,gorgeous looking , like it did not peel off & back casing kindda polished ?
P / s Is it really true these watches @rbob99 @davidswiss were actually antimagnetic & certified chronometers back in 1953 ? I mean that's like even unheard of right ? i guess everyone knows these vintage classics are only going to hold its value but going against @rbob99 better judgement , i'd say auctioned watches in 10 yrs will hit USD 6-8K. @rbob99 doesnt think so.
There is a huge market for vintage military in the Far East....
I recently met this chinaman vintage watch collector who just arrived from Ho Chin Minh city but i prefer calling that city Saigon ! ( My Aussie godfather drilled that phrase into my head ) . This fella bought vintage military watches from a marketplace in Saigon. Do you know how they appeared in some God forsaken farmers marketplace ?
Apparently the Vietnamese started searching & digging up earth for Missing In Action American GIs or dead Vietcongs . When rotten corpses or skeletal remains were found , the lucky ones would just manually unbuckle or remove vintage watches like Elgin , Seiko, Hamilton , Breitling or to save time, simply Chop off the owners' wrist bones !!!
Hi Army Veterans !
Hi Non Combatant civilians !
Amazing isnt it ..these vintage military watches are so Rare but seem to pop up in the forum. This is not a validation ok ? @davidswiss has an excellant Omega Military Thin Arrow 53 Vintage British RAF pilot wrist watch calibre 283 batch number 4508/5900 issued in 1953 very original hands & dials. I assume it's around 36 mm without the crown ?
Has the watch been restored ,Sir ? Is that the original lume ? The lume on the hands & dial looks pretty much intact ,gorgeous looking , like it did not peel off & back casing kindda polished ?
P / s Is it really true these watches @rbob99 @davidswiss were actually antimagnetic & certified chronometers back in 1953 ? I mean that's like even unheard of right ? i guess everyone knows these vintage classics are only going to hold its value but going against @rbob99 better judgement , i'd say auctioned watches in 10 yrs will hit USD 6-8K. @rbob99 doesnt think so.
There is a huge market for vintage military in the Far East....
I recently met this chinaman vintage watch collector who just arrived from Ho Chin Minh city but i prefer calling that city Saigon ! ( My Aussie godfather drilled that phrase into my head ) . This fella bought vintage military watches from a marketplace in Saigon. Do you know how they appeared in some God forsaken farmers marketplace ?
Apparently the Vietnamese started searching & digging up earth for Missing In Action American GIs or dead Vietcongs . When rotten corpses or skeletal remains were found , the lucky ones would just manually unbuckle or remove vintage watches like Elgin , Seiko, Hamilton , Breitling or to save time, simply Chop off the owners' wrist bones !!!
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davidswiss
·Meganfox, no it's not been restored but, as I wrote earlier, it was missing a correct antimagnetic inner cover and the crown had been replaced with a wrong part. Fortunately I was able to source the correct items and it's now all correct.
They were not certified chronometers but the movements were of chronometer standard and they were certified as being accurate enough for use by pilots and navigators.
The antimagnetic qualities were supplied by a soft iron (or anti magnetic alloy, I don't know what) inner cover and a thicker dial in the same material thus creating a faraday cage and protecting the movement.
One last thing, please don't call me sir, it makes me feel even older than I am and we're all friends on the forum.
They were not certified chronometers but the movements were of chronometer standard and they were certified as being accurate enough for use by pilots and navigators.
The antimagnetic qualities were supplied by a soft iron (or anti magnetic alloy, I don't know what) inner cover and a thicker dial in the same material thus creating a faraday cage and protecting the movement.
One last thing, please don't call me sir, it makes me feel even older than I am and we're all friends on the forum.
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Syrte
··MWR Tech Support DeptMeganfox,
One last thing, please don't call me sir, it makes me feel even older than I am ......
Hey dear Meganfox, "sir" doesn't quite feel right for me either ....... this is how I wear my watch!
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meganfox17
·Hi Syrte ,
Ha6x! Technically speaking syrte is pronounced as sir-T .....right ?
Whhaaaaa....Nail Polish ..?
Ring on lady's middle finger ? Really ?
Etes-Vois Une Femme ??
Now i'm confused !
Are you French or French speaking Ma'am ? Madame ?
So... i 'm not the only lady giving her comments in this thread ?
Ha66x! This is Great...!!
Syrte...??? French....?
SYtemes de Reference Temps Espace...... like a Paris observatory measuring Standard Time & Astrophysics thinghy..?
Sorry Ma'am .i thought i was well.....one of handfuls of females in a Male Dominated forum. Ha66x!
Ha6x! Technically speaking syrte is pronounced as sir-T .....right ?
Whhaaaaa....Nail Polish ..?
Ring on lady's middle finger ? Really ?
Etes-Vois Une Femme ??
Now i'm confused !
Are you French or French speaking Ma'am ? Madame ?
So... i 'm not the only lady giving her comments in this thread ?
Ha66x! This is Great...!!
Syrte...??? French....?
SYtemes de Reference Temps Espace...... like a Paris observatory measuring Standard Time & Astrophysics thinghy..?
Sorry Ma'am .i thought i was well.....one of handfuls of females in a Male Dominated forum. Ha66x!
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Syrte
··MWR Tech Support DeptBonjour Mademoiselle MeganFox!
it does seem you are "one of a handful"... Which is more than one!
I love your parisian astrophysics lab theory and all your Einsteinisms.... The name I used comes from a novel though, and I do speak French.
Nice to see a young lady too!
it does seem you are "one of a handful"... Which is more than one!
I love your parisian astrophysics lab theory and all your Einsteinisms.... The name I used comes from a novel though, and I do speak French.
Nice to see a young lady too!
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··Melbourne AustraliaBonjour Mademoiselle MeganFox!
it does seem you are "one of a handful"... Which is more than one!
I love your parisian astrophysics lab theory and all your Einsteinisms.... The name I used comes from a novel though, and I do speak French.
Nice to see a young lady too!
JG?
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··Melbourne AustraliaToo true. We've only visited France twice but fell in love with the whole country so we shall be back again.
About the book. I saw a copy when we were browsing some quaint little book stalls one Saturday when were walking along the banks of the Seine. The name stuck in my mind for some reason and I had to look it up when we got back to the hotel.
I think it was the same day I took this (sorry, not a Military Omega).
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Syrte
··MWR Tech Support DeptWild coincidence.... and cool picture!
It is a name that kind of captures the imagination.
Glad you enjoyed the city.
It is a name that kind of captures the imagination.
Glad you enjoyed the city.
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river rat
·Hi rbob99
I dont give a Damn if the mods move it or not . Your Vintage British Military Masterpiece deserves a mention here
OH MY GAWD ! Are you Shitting Me ???? Pardon my language... but i'm like.. Sooooo Jealous of You right now... NO.. Actually I HATE YOU RIGHT NOW !!!
Goodness Gracious Me !! That's a Bloody extremely Rare .... Highly collectable Highly Prized British Military watch ordered from Omega in 1953 for a period of 1 yr only....
6B/542 means ( 6B =RAF ) /
( 542 = Pilot wrist watch) so it means this watch was reserved for the British Royal Air Force worn by a Pilot or Aircrew members of a fighter squadron or British Mlilitary Cargo plane
627 means house number 627 /5900 pieces limited
53 means Only 1 yr production in 1953
It's a very important Yr because of Queen Elizabeth 11 Coronation , her ascend to the throne of England
The digits 6645 101000 is a Nato Military Code , the first four digits means Nato wrist watch , the last six digits refers to the model which is Omega Broad arrow ( not thin arrow as you have mentioned ok ? ) , the original strap must have been Nato black nylon
The backcasing arrow means containing H3 / Tritium. The previous thin arrow Radium dials models were radioactive
I just love the vintage dials &... those...thin arrow hands .?...no no rbob99 ..those are beautiful sword hands reminds me of the Rolex British Mil Subs 5517. Superduper Rare !!!!.. No Mercedes Hands ..Good ! ..& the "Murph watch" style dial of the movie Interstellar.....
rbob99 ?? Am i Right ? TELL ME Something.... Anything !!!!!
Sorry i'm a little hysterical right now ....my mind's racing furiously thinking about this Awesome Incredible Omega Military 53 Thin Arrow ( It's Fat or Broad Arrow style ok ?.. i know what you're gonna say ) Historical timepiece...Did i miss out anything.......??? Hmmm..??
In Auction Houses by my modest estimates , your watch can fetch a price of btwn USD 8000 - USD12000 easily but Sky's the Limit if the buyer is off his Bonkers !
I seriously Hate You Right Now!
I know this is old. But how do you know there was only 5900 made ? Here is my case back 6371 so a little more than 5900 pieces limited
