Omega Constellation on Catawiki Fake or Genuine?

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What are your thoughts? I'm of the mind that the reference is actually a chronometer, but with a swapped movement.
Which was my original observation: Redial and franken.
 
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I know, I got a little crazy there. Sorry, I should have taken more time and been more careful. Let me try again.

I originally thought you were saying it wasn't a chronometer reference at all, and that the re-dial incorrectly added the word "chronometer". Then, I found the reference in the OVD, and started to realize I had probably misinterpreted your original comments. The dial is repainted accurately (not well, but with the right words), but the movement has been swapped with a non-chronometer movement. Is that what you were saying?
 
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Which was my original observation: Redial and franken.

Yes, sorry. It just took me a while to get there.
 
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Welcome aboard. 😉

Too much coffee today. I need to stop and think before I post. 😀
 
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Too much coffee today. I need to stop and think before I post. 😀
Not a big deal; this got confusing fast. Just to be clear: That movement is not a 682, assuming the reference is 768.0806.
 
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This watch is redialed but not a franken. The movement is a chronometer 1011. The adjusted 5 position print is blurry but can still be read.

The 682/685 movement is much different and smaller. The size of ref 768.0806 is also much smaller than 33mm as well.

It would've been better if she'd questioned whether it was a fake first before buying though.
 
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This watch is redialed but not a franken. The movement is a chronometer 1011. The adjusted 5 position print is blurry but can still be read.

The 682/685 movement is much different and smaller. The size of ref 768.0806 is also much smaller than 33mm as well.

It would've been better if she'd questioned whether it was a fake first before buying though.
Absolutely. I'm glad you could make out the caliber. I had to go by what the "expert" said it was.
 
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Ref ST 368.0855 perhaps. No photo in the OVD, but it mentions an integrated bracelet and a case with screws.
 
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The adjusted 5 position print is blurry but can still be read.

I can see this now.
 
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Ref ST 368.0855 perhaps. No photo in the OVD, but it mentions an integrated bracelet and a case with screws.
368.0852 / 168.059. There's an image of the .0855 in the OVD and it's a different and much bigger watch.
 
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Too much coffee today. I need to stop and think before I post. 😀
Maybe not enough coffee. 😵‍💫
 
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Hello ladies (if any) and gentlemen! Thank you for your precious feedback, I wish I had found this beautiful forum before I placed my bid...
I still haven’t paid it, but I guess Catawiki forces you paying no matter what once you win, and then you have 14 days for dispute... but I guess in case of refund I will still lose my shipping and custom costs ‍♀️
I am shocked, because I was advised that it was a really secure place where to buy, and the seller seemed to have a good feedback
 
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Hi Olga, Catawiki is NOT a secure place to buy. Sadly the auctioneers dont know jack s### about omega and often you see redials or frankens sold with high estimated prices from the auctioneers.

Normally you can get the customs costs back if you can proof that you've send the item back. But can you contact the seller and catawiki before paying for the item that you want to cancel the transaction due to wrong and/or misleading information?
 
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It's your money until you hand it over, surely?

Those little info labels reall suck.
 
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My one experience with Catawiki was a complete turn-off. They listed a white gold Speedmaster early this year, so we're talking about a high value item. The listing had .jpeg images of 30-60Kb that were useless for assessing condition, the description was only in Polish and after using Google Translate to make sense of it, it contained around 10 words about the condition of the watch with the remainder largely irrelevant. Here's the translation. The best part of it was the backside comment:

"
The 18-carat white gold Speedmaster Professional Moonphase was only available for a limited time
and commemorated the 30th anniversary of the Apollo XI landing in 1969. Only 2 thousand pieces were taken!
I have been using it for many years and it was used only occasionally ... it has no damage or scratches ...
the mechanism is fully functional ... the price is about 20 years ago 11000-12000tys.dolarow ...
the hairpin itself costs about 1,200 euros! also gold!
I think that today is such a backside that it is no longer on the market and its value only grows ...
"

Being interested, I emailed Catawiki requesting some hi-res images and asking about a corrector, as follows:



Catawiki came back with:



Needless to say, no bids came from me. The bottom line is they don't even handle the merchandise themselves. The seller takes the photos and provides the description. Catawiki "experts" do nothing of any substance - they don't even get the description translated. This listing was also Berry Harleman's and I can only concur with what @efauser said above.
 
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Oh now I know... Do you think there is a way to refuse the purchase since I haven't paid yet, or the only way is to pay, receive and then go fir dispute?
 
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After rereading the thread, you're getting what you should be getting, even if the watch was misrepresented. Although the listing stated the watch has a cal. 1012, it appears to have a cal 1011, which is correct for that watch. You knew it was a redial so you don't have an out there. My suggestion is to wear the watch and keep it as a reminder to research first.
 
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Oh now I know... Do you think there is a way to refuse the purchase since I haven't paid yet, or the only way is to pay, receive and then go fir dispute?
Just don't pay, haven't done it myself but I hear it happens a lot on Catawiki and I don't think you'll get in trouble for it, probably even link them this thread and they will understand.
 
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After rereading the thread, you're getting what you should be getting, even if the watch was misrepresented. Although the listing stated the watch has a cal. 1012, it appears to have a cal 1011, which is correct for that watch. You knew it was a redial so you don't have an out there. My suggestion is to wear the watch and keep it as a reminder to research first.

I agree with @efauser, the OP is getting exactly what she expected and wanted. It's a re-dial, but she knew that. Why would she back out of the purchase? Everything is ok.