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JimInOz
··Melbourne AustraliaAre any Omega employees members of this forum?
Omega 3861 -- intermittent loud "tink" noise every 30 seconds
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jasper21
·Hey guys! I just noticed this issue with my 3861 hesalite today and found this forum post. For my case, the extra “tick” sound can happen once every 4-5 seconds, sometimes louder sometimes softer, and it can go a few mins without happening. Has anyone had your watch serviced to solve this issue?
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jasper21
·Hey guys! I just noticed this issue with my 3861 hesalite today and found this forum post. For my case, the extra “tick” sound can happen once every 4-5 seconds, sometimes louder sometimes softer, and it can go a few mins without happening. Has anyone had your watch serviced to solve this issue?
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ErichKeane
·This just popped up again... I'm kind of amazed that of the 6 people we have who have this problem, NO ONE has sent it in for service! EVEN if Swatch Group/Omega was on the forum, their only response would be "send it in for service and we'll take a look".
I honestly would prefer someone send it to @Archer instead, since at least we know he'd share the diagnosis with us 😁
Mainspring doesn't sound likely to me, multiple times a minute (up to 15min!) would be basically impossible for a mainspring. Note a mainspring turns 4-6 times TOTAL with a full wind, so literally once every 10 hours....
So that would leave me to believe it is in the main train of wheels, but it would have to be at a pace that matches A wheel in the gear train. So something like a spring/piece of metal/etc 'escaping' elsewhere and pinging off a wheel, but soft enough it doesn't really affect time keeping, which with how little mass a hack has, seems like it would have to be pretty small.
Anyway, I am pretty curious as to what the cause would be, if only someone would send their watch in for repair...
I honestly would prefer someone send it to @Archer instead, since at least we know he'd share the diagnosis with us 😁
Mainspring doesn't sound likely to me, multiple times a minute (up to 15min!) would be basically impossible for a mainspring. Note a mainspring turns 4-6 times TOTAL with a full wind, so literally once every 10 hours....
So that would leave me to believe it is in the main train of wheels, but it would have to be at a pace that matches A wheel in the gear train. So something like a spring/piece of metal/etc 'escaping' elsewhere and pinging off a wheel, but soft enough it doesn't really affect time keeping, which with how little mass a hack has, seems like it would have to be pretty small.
Anyway, I am pretty curious as to what the cause would be, if only someone would send their watch in for repair...
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Alimamy
·Since this thread has popped back up again, I thought I might comment just to explain why I didn't take the watch in for service. The watch was keeping excellent time and everything functioned properly.
Movement noises are an interesting thing. My 3130 Rolex watches would "ring like a bell" with a distinct pattern. Click click click, a building resonance and ringing, rising and falling over the course of 30 seconds to a minute.
My 3861 kept excellent time and everything worked fine. I just figured the occasional click sound was a quirk, like all movements have. Sending it away would entailed a possible service, new scratches and dings, opening up the case back before necessary etc.
I did not even notice the sound until I saw this thread. I imagine many people do not listen so closely to pick up such a detail.
Movement noises are an interesting thing. My 3130 Rolex watches would "ring like a bell" with a distinct pattern. Click click click, a building resonance and ringing, rising and falling over the course of 30 seconds to a minute.
My 3861 kept excellent time and everything worked fine. I just figured the occasional click sound was a quirk, like all movements have. Sending it away would entailed a possible service, new scratches and dings, opening up the case back before necessary etc.
I did not even notice the sound until I saw this thread. I imagine many people do not listen so closely to pick up such a detail.
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ErichKeane
·Since this thread has popped back up again, I thought I might comment just to explain why I didn't take the watch in for service. The watch was keeping excellent time and everything functioned properly.
Movement noises are an interesting thing. My 3130 Rolex watches would "ring like a bell" with a distinct pattern. Click click click, a building resonance and ringing, rising and falling over the course of 30 seconds to a minute.
My 3861 kept excellent time and everything worked fine. I just figured the occasional click sound was a quirk, like all movements have. Sending it away would entailed a possible service, new scratches and dings, opening up the case back before necessary etc.
I did not even notice the sound until I saw this thread. I imagine many people do not listen so closely to pick up such a detail.
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Alimamy
·I completely understand that... but that doesn't satiate my curiosity 😀
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ErichKeane
·😂 I am curious, too. At the time, I maybe could have stopped by the Omega Boutique. I probably thought they wouldn't know anyways.
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bigtriangle68
·Updated list of Omega Forums members experiencing this issue with a 3186 Speedy Pro:
1. bigtriangle68
2. VizslaFriend
3. mojorison_75
4. Alimamy
5. tictacmen
6. jasper21
1. bigtriangle68
2. VizslaFriend
3. mojorison_75
4. Alimamy
5. tictacmen
6. jasper21
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Pastorbottle
·Updated list of Omega Forums members experiencing this issue with a 3186 Speedy Pro:
1. bigtriangle68
2. VizslaFriend
3. mojorison_75
4. Alimamy
5. tictacmen
6. jasper21
I would've thought your more fanatical watch guy, would on average tend to have a highish post count, and as a fanatic would be more likely to spot something (either real or imagined) wrong with his watch
Make of it what you will........
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bigtriangle68
·Just an observation, but none of these members seem to have amassed a very big post count on this forum.......I'm not implying anything or reading much into it, as I said, it's just an observation, that seems a little counter intuitive.
I would've thought your more fanatical watch guy, would on average tend to have a highish post count, and as a fanatic would be more likely to spot something (either real or imagined) wrong with his watch
Make of it what you will........
Just an observation, but it sounds like you are implying something.
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Pastorbottle
·Make of it what you will!
The point I was trying to make is that I would've thought the more fanatically inclined watch enthusiast would be always on the forum, and more obsessive about the working condition of their watch, therefore more likely to notice things that others might not notice or care much about if they did!
Now the statistical sample number is fairly small, so no scientific conclusions can be drawn
If you take that as a personal slight........ I'm sorry for you, not to you!
The point I was trying to make is that I would've thought the more fanatically inclined watch enthusiast would be always on the forum, and more obsessive about the working condition of their watch, therefore more likely to notice things that others might not notice or care much about if they did!
Now the statistical sample number is fairly small, so no scientific conclusions can be drawn
If you take that as a personal slight........ I'm sorry for you, not to you!
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bigtriangle68
·Make of it what you will!
The point I was trying to make is that I would've thought the more fanatically inclined watch enthusiast would be always on the forum, and more obsessive about the working condition of their watch, therefore more likely to notice things that others might not notice or care much about if they did!
Now the statistical sample number is fairly small, so no scientific conclusions can be drawn
If you fake that as a personal slight........ I'm sorry for you, not to you!
If you are insinuating I posted the other complaints on the thread about this movement, feel free ask the forum Admin to cross check all the IP addresses that have flagged this problem and report back.
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Pastorbottle
·Your statement is an unsubstantiated opinion.
If you are insinuating I posted the other complaints on the thread about this movement, feel free ask the forum Admin to cross check all the IP addresses that have flagged this problem and report back.
Every member has a total post count which is displayed by their avatar. This count is based upon the amount of posting activity across the whole forum. For instance I can see you have posted a little over 200 times, most of the others on your list have posted under 50 times.
My point stands in that none of them have been on here to rack up a tally in the 1000s, like many of the seriously keen watch enthusiasts.
Have said that we all started our membership journey somewhere, so as I mentioned at 6 members, it's not a statistically high enough sample to draw any great conclusions from, but it is noticeable!
You could've always checked this yourself, but hey why not give Admin yet another task that you could've easily done yourself.
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bigtriangle68
·What are you on about?
Every member has a total post count which is displayed by their avatar. This count is based upon the amount of posting activity across the whole forum. For instance I can see you have posted a little over 200 times, most of the others on your list have posted under 50 times.
My point stands in that none of them have been on here to rack up a tally in the 1000s, like many of the seriously keen watch enthusiasts.
Have said that we all started our membership journey somewhere, so as I mentioned at 6 members, it's not a statistically high enough sample to draw any great conclusions from, but it is noticeable!
You could've always checked this yourself, but hey why not give Admin yet another task that you could've easily done yourself.
What does a member’s post count have to do with first-hand performance observations about their 3861 movement? A simple Google search about the 3861 issue can lead non-members to discover this thread and join to contribute.
It’s arrogant to dismiss observations of multiple Speedy owners because that haven’t met your arbitrary 1,000-post threshold to satisfy your definition of a “seriously keen watch enthusiast.”
It’s posts like yours that remind me why I don’t spend much time here.
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ErichKeane
·The conclusion I draw is obviously no one is particularly bothered by the sound, as no one has done anything about it other than post 2-3 times about it, then abandoned all effort/interest in it. None sent it to a watchmaker, and none even took video of the movement while it was making the noise (as I suggested) so that folks here with knowledge/watchmaking experience might see something of value.
Just goes to show that no one really seems to care more than to just post a handful of times on the thread (whether or not they stuck around, which obviously they didnt).
Just goes to show that no one really seems to care more than to just post a handful of times on the thread (whether or not they stuck around, which obviously they didnt).
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bigtriangle68
·The conclusion I draw is obviously no one is particularly bothered by the sound, as no one has done anything about it other than post 2-3 times about it, then abandoned all effort/interest in it. None sent it to a watchmaker, and none even took video of the movement while it was making the noise (as I suggested) so that folks here with knowledge/watchmaking experience might see something of value.
Just goes to show that no one really seems to care more than to just post a handful of times on the thread (whether or not they stuck around, which obviously they didnt).
I posted an audio recording here a couple of years back of the noise. I have the hesalite model -- no see through case back to film the movement during the noise. There was nothing amiss on the dial side. I took it to an Omega Boutique, and they said if they took it in I would be without it for 6 months. No thanks. The juice ain't worth the squeeze. The watch still works. But it is a real issue.
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Pastorbottle
·FFS no one doubts that you can hear something, as to how loud that sound is, well it's gonna be relative, what may be clearly audible to you, I myself probably couldn't hear, as I have industrial deafness, indeed in order for me the hear anything you'd probably need to whack the watch with a 2kg hammer (not recommended).
Seeing as various experienced watch enthusiasts and respected watch makers amongst our membership have not experienced this problem, indicates that it isn't a common problem.
That is not to say the problem doesn't exist.
Now as a watch's primary function is to keep time and the watch manages to continue to do this in a satisfactory manner, and you can't be arsed getting it looked at under warranty, I don't see much of a problem. If you don't want to give the manufacturer the chance to do something about it, what do you expect us to do about it........ storm the castle with pitch forks and burning torches?
If your not prepared to do anything proactive about it, why continue bang on about it?
It would be instructive for the membership if it was looked at and the cause is found and what the cure would be, but all we have is a drawn out sook session, which achieves absolutely nothing!
Seeing as various experienced watch enthusiasts and respected watch makers amongst our membership have not experienced this problem, indicates that it isn't a common problem.
That is not to say the problem doesn't exist.
Now as a watch's primary function is to keep time and the watch manages to continue to do this in a satisfactory manner, and you can't be arsed getting it looked at under warranty, I don't see much of a problem. If you don't want to give the manufacturer the chance to do something about it, what do you expect us to do about it........ storm the castle with pitch forks and burning torches?
If your not prepared to do anything proactive about it, why continue bang on about it?
It would be instructive for the membership if it was looked at and the cause is found and what the cure would be, but all we have is a drawn out sook session, which achieves absolutely nothing!
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bigtriangle68
·FFS no one doubts that you can hear something, as to how loud that sound is, well it's gonna be relative, what may be clearly audible to you, I myself probably couldn't hear, as I have industrial deafness, indeed in order for me the hear anything you'd probably need to whack the watch with a 2kg hammer (not recommended).
Seeing as various experienced watch enthusiasts and respected watch makers amongst our membership have not experienced this problem, indicates that it isn't a common problem.
That is not to say the problem doesn't exist.
Now as a watch's primary function is to keep time and the watch manages to continue to do this in a satisfactory manner, and you can't be arsed getting it looked at under warranty, I don't see much of a problem. If you don't want to give the manufacturer the chance to do something about it, what do you expect us to do about it........ storm the castle with pitch forks and burning torches?
If your not prepared to do anything proactive about it, why continue bang on about it?
It would be instructive for the membership if it was looked at and the cause is found and what the cure would be, but all we have is a drawn out sook session, which achieves absolutely nothing!
Let’s recap. @jasper21 bumped this thread. I simply added them to the list of folks who are experiencing this 3861 issue.
Then you began babbling about member post counts and dismissing first-hand observations of members with less than 1,000 posts.
Who are you to say who is an experienced watch enthusiast here and who isn’t? I’ve been a member of Watchuseek for 19 years with well over 1,000 posts there.
And I did do something proactive about it. I started this thread. I added an audio recording for the knowledge base. I spoke to Omega about it and determined they would need the watch for at least 6 months (or more), just to look at it.
As previously stated, the watch works. I will have Omega look at it when I service it, but I’m not going to be without it for ½ a year or more just for this issue. The juice ain’t worth the squeeze.
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Pastorbottle
·There are those here who's opinions and knowledge about watches I value, because they have a track record here, they may not have much of a track record on other forums elsewhere on the net, so as a result their opinions may not generate the same level of respect as here.
Now just because I have a fairly large post count doesn't mean I have the same level of expertise as some (most) of these guys....... I don't, as it happens and i'm the first to admit it, but I doo have a lot of engineering experience and after a while I can tell when someone knows what they're talking about. I don't have enough exposure to your posting to be able to formulate much of an estimate of your level of knowledge on the subject.
Now just because I have a fairly large post count doesn't mean I have the same level of expertise as some (most) of these guys....... I don't, as it happens and i'm the first to admit it, but I doo have a lot of engineering experience and after a while I can tell when someone knows what they're talking about. I don't have enough exposure to your posting to be able to formulate much of an estimate of your level of knowledge on the subject.