October 5th 2020 - Snoopy Celebration

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yeah, A12 and A14 didn't have dedicated anniversaries (except for the mission series), but A15 and A17 seemed to have up until the 45th anniversary making it logical to have a 50th anniversary weren't it for the change in direction regarding LE's after 2019.
I'm guessing it was a marketing decision to cut out all of the Apollo anniversaries and reduce the amount of SE watches produced after all the flak Omega would receive for constantly producing LE watches.
 
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I'm guessing it was a marketing decision to cut out all of the Apollo anniversaries and reduce the amount of SE watches produced after all the flak Omega would receive for constantly producing LE watches.
Many people complained about the number of LEs Omega was producing, so they went from producing LEs in the 2,000-4,000 piece range to almost no special watches in stainless steel (except for the Ed White 321 and Snoopy). I think after the big 50th Apollo 11 anniversary they decided to dial the LEs back and only produce a few items in small, unnumbered runs. There have been some nice gold editions in limited numbers, but those aren't the ones collectors go for because of the cost. Long term, the previous LEs may become more desirable from a collecting standpoint, especially those with a dial that isn't predominantly black.
 
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Chatting to someone from Omega and supply of materials is still a issue in many models. New deep diver seems to be slower rolling out due to smaller batches with supply chain issues.

I am still seeing it it my other hobby. But at least I can shop around for what I need…not something Omega would be able to do so easily.
 
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I can’t imagine there is a scenario in which Omega does not release a watch commemorating the 50th Anniversary of the last moon landing.
 
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Just saw this post in one of the Facebook groups I belong to. God, it makes my blood boil...
 
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As Saïd many people with 0 here story but with full deposit in UK US AUS are delivered in priority to avoid legal suites, but first now are the friends of high level Oméga Management and only them the rest of us until end of production for mid 2023.

Actually if you are excel list there is a lot of bypass
 
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That makes sense and appreciate your insight here.
I have from good authority that they will still be making them in 2024 at least.
Have commented this before and have been know here to be pretty spot on with predictions and info…( @pdxleaf will back me up )

Do you have any remote idea on the latest ballpark production numbers? They may very well continue making it for a few more years, but I think the production numbers are way more relevant than the time frame. As they could drop production substantially and the time frame is almost irrelevant.

I think at one point it was said (possibly by you, but I can't remember, and there are too many pages now) that it was very likely that there would be approximately 5000 pieces in the first 2 years / initial batch and then production would continue but at a substantially slower rate after that, likely until the next anniversary. Curious if you can add any additional context?

Of course I know this is something we will never know precisely. But I feel like at some point we should get an idea of whether the number is closer to 5,000, 10,000, 15,000, etc.
 
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I think at one point it was said (possibly by you, but I can't remember, and there are too many pages now) that it was very likely that there would be approximately 5000 pieces in the first 2 years / initial batch and then production would continue but at a substantially slower rate after that, likely until the next anniversary. Curious if you can add any additional context?
That was what I was told by my OB when I put down my deposit. My OB was allocated a little over 30 Snoopies and they ran through their allocations earlier this year. They said they likely won't be getting anymore. Of course this is all just hearsay since Omega HQ could always change their minds or OB may not have been telling accurate information.
 
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Got mine last Friday after more than two years of waiting. Such an amazing watch. Super happy and worth the wait. Pictures don't do it justice.
 
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The beauty of Omega's new strategy for their 'special edition' watches like the Snoopy, and the new 60th Bond, is they have an open opportunity to decide how many they will make on their own schedule. If it is a hot release they can keep production going for years, and the hype machine keeps anticipation up. If it doesn't sell well they can quietly fold the tent. It's been two full years since the Snoopy was introduced and it's still being talked about. Only Omega knows how many they have made, or will make. Compare that to all the previous LE releases in the 2,000 - 3,000 range, and even up to almost 7,000 with the Apollo 11. With the old system Omega's income was set by the number produced, the secondary market made more money by buying and reselling a finite number of pieces. Now Omega reaps the majority of the revenue through an unknown, to the market, number of pieces made. We will never know how many Snoopy 50th's will be made, that will be a closely held number within Omega.
 
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The beauty of Omega's new strategy for their 'special edition' watches like the Snoopy, and the new 60th Bond, is they have an open opportunity to decide how many they will make on their own schedule. If it is a hot release they can keep production going for years, and the hype machine keeps anticipation up. If it doesn't sell well they can quietly fold the tent. It's been two full years since the Snoopy was introduced and it's still being talked about. Only Omega knows how many they have made, or will make. Compare that to all the previous LE releases in the 2,000 - 3,000 range, and even up to almost 7,000 with the Apollo 11. With the old system Omega's income was set by the number produced, the secondary market made more money by buying and reselling a finite number of pieces. Now Omega reaps the majority of the revenue through an unknown, to the market, number of pieces made. We will never know how many Snoopy 50th's will be made, that will be a closely held number within Omega.
Omega certainly doesn't want another Apollo 17 40th Anniversary watch where some units sat in the boutique for almost a decade. If that was just a SE with limited production, they could've quickly and quietly stopped production on that one.
 
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I believe we will never know the exact amount but we will eventually get an idea of a range to the nearest 1000s. It might not be until the end or years later, but I think the truth will come out.

Just like with the TinTins... It took a while, but we got an idea.

Also, with current supply chain constraints and delays, I don't think it is so easy to drastically change production numbers on the fly. It takes time to produce special case backs, dials, bezels, etc.
 
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Omega certainly doesn't want another Apollo 17 40th Anniversary watch where some units sat in the boutique for almost a decade. If that was just a SE with limited production, they could've quickly and quietly stopped production on that one.
That's why you need a compelling, interesting and ultimately desirable watch, the design of the Apollo 17 40th Anniversary just wasn't very attractive, it was just too far out of the box and should never have been approved. Every company has an occasional misfire design wise, that was Omega's Edsel.
 
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Got mine last Friday after more than two years of waiting. Such an amazing watch. Super happy and worth the wait. Pictures don't do it justice.
Pic from the cockpit? Over the Alps??
Beautiful watch and shot!
 
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Stopped by the Atl OB and was told I'm next. They've been receiving them fairly steadily, so I'm hoping for not too long into 2023 to get the call. Almost wish I didn't get the good news, it is making the wait seem harder now that it is right in front of me!
 
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Stopped by the Atl OB and was told I'm next. They've been receiving them fairly steadily, so I'm hoping for not too long into 2023 to get the call. Almost wish I didn't get the good news, it is making the wait seem harder now that it is right in front of me!

Congrats in advance! Do you mind my asking how long you've been on the list, and whether you think your spend history there has been a factor?

Thanks and congrats again,
-GW
 
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For those who have received their snoopy, I’m wondering how much attention it garners when out and about or how recognizable it is with the WIS community. Considering it’s niche and likely not as recognizable as a sub or normal moon watch, I would think that some fun convos would be had if it is noticed.
 
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FYI. I don’t have one, but it’s not a great time to be looking for watches because it’s cooler weather and people wear jackets and stuff when out. Today at the shopping center, I saw a guy wearing a jacket with a NASA logo as well as the logo for the pioneer space probe. Turns out he used to work for NASA. And his son and grandson both work for the space force. Pretty cool!
 
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Congrats in advance! Do you mind my asking how long you've been on the list, and whether you think your spend history there has been a factor?

Thanks and congrats again,
-GW
I had put my name on the list and paid my deposit just a few days before it was released back in 10/2020. I don't think spend history factored into it too much, I hadn't purchased from them at the time of the deposit, have since added a PO from there. I don't think buying another piece was a great help, but it certainly didn't hurt and showed them I'm a serious buyer and also not just there for a hard to come by piece.
 
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I had put my name on the list and paid my deposit just a few days before it was released back in 10/2020. I don't think spend history factored into it too much, I hadn't purchased from them at the time of the deposit, have since added a PO from there. I don't think buying another piece was a great help, but it certainly didn't hurt and showed them I'm a serious buyer and also not just there for a hard to come by piece.

Excellent, thanks for sharing!
-GW