You basically just proved my point. "Nobody will say no to discounts" . Only buy limited or boutique exclusives at the boutique, otherwise go after discount. Sometimes it's worth it to build relationship and pay a bit more for a standard model that can be had elsewhere at discount, because eventually it circles around and that boutique gets you your Snoopy. Omega do set rules , the ADs have been know to break them by giving larger discounts than authorized.
The way to stop discounting is to stop manufacturing more watches than the market can absorb. Ferrari never makes enough cars to satisfy the market, hence discounting is squelched. It really starts with the maker, it's the not the ADs problem.
You guys are funny. How many of you who are commenting about Ferrari have Ferraris? Current ones? I have one and ordered it from new, and also have two on order for delivery next year. Ordering a Ferrari isn’t as difficult, frustrating, nor do they leave you in the dark, like this watch. I know that I am guaranteed my car, and when I will get it. Omega is just alienating a base, many of whom can just buy from another brand, with their antics.
You guys are funny. How many of you who are commenting about Ferrari have Ferraris? Current ones? I have one and ordered it from new, and also have two on order for delivery next year. Ordering a Ferrari isn’t as difficult, frustrating, nor do they leave you in the dark, like this watch. I know that I am guaranteed my car, and when I will get it. Omega is just alienating a base, many of whom can just buy from another brand, with their antics.
Lol, u the funny one. If you have that many Ferrari’s , just buy your Snoopy at market price and be done with it. I prefer Porsche. If you had the same history with Omega that you do with Ferrari, then you would already have Snoopy. Less supply than demand, it’s imperfect system, but in general watches are going to clients with longer history with a preference for corporate boutiques.
You guys are funny. How many of you who are commenting about Ferrari have Ferraris? Current ones? I have one and ordered it from new, and also have two on order for delivery next year. Ordering a Ferrari isn’t as difficult, frustrating, nor do they leave you in the dark, like this watch. I know that I am guaranteed my car, and when I will get it. Omega is just alienating a base, many of whom can just buy from another brand, with their antics.
Watches are guaranteed for good clients that acted when it was time to act.
Not really an issue.
Customers with 3 Ferrari already received their Snoopy, so it should be an issue for you!
Whales got their Snoopy first, as always.
I find very hard to believe that a true whale is still waiting for the watch.
If you have 3 Ferrari and still waiting for the watch, you probably built zero relation with the boutique.
You will have to wait, but if you placed your deposit/order in time you will get your watch like regular people.
Like I said, I don't have a relationship, nor did I say I was a whale. Cars are my passion, so I spend on them. Watches, I just buy what I like. I bought my Seamaster 20 years ago at Harrod's and have bought random things like rings, bracelets, cufflinks, from random OBs around the world. I have other watches, and haven't really looked at buying an Omega until this watch. I just like the way it looks. I plan on wearing it, not flipping it. I don't mind waiting, but at least give me an estimate. I put my money down the day this thing was announced and we're coming close to two years. All I get is just "maybe this year... or next". That's not a way to maintain a relationship.
You start all relationships, whether cars or watches, the same way, but you at least are kept abreast and are told when you can expect it. This watch has been a mystery.
As for paying market, that kind of attitude is why these flippers are out there and thriving. I'm not supporting this secondary market/flipper culture. Be it cars, watches, even shoes, the way things are is ridiculous, and I refuse to give someone a windfall on my hard earned money. For example, like cars, with people paying $100k ADM on things like a G-Wagon, we all know who is spending that, it's either dirty money (in these times it's usually stolen PPP money), Section 179, or just people with dumb money. This is not tenable and the market will come down, hopefully on these flippers.
I think that the 90% of the discussion in those pages is about an issue of the North American market, with this “strange” system of deposits up to the 100% of the price.
I’m not a lawyer, but I’m pretty sure that in Europe - or at least here in Italy - this practice is illegal.
You (the seller) cannot take all the money if you’re not sure to be able to fulfill the contract, and the date of expiration is one of the “basic elements” of a contract.
Surely, a customer can pay a deposit (10, 20, up to 50% of the price) for a purchase of something that is not yet available (a car or a watch to be produced later) BUT… the day after the expired date on the contract, if the item is still not yet available, and if the customer asks for it, he is entitled to receive DOUBLE the deposit! According to the laws!
That’s why here in Italy AFAIK they don’t take deposits for this Snoopy, and we’re living happier.
I think it’s not a Omega’s problem, it’s a NA market rules problem.
(apologies for my poor English)
