October 5th 2020 - Snoopy Celebration

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Yes, but those were all all knocked out before a global pandemic made a mess of supply chains.

History is forgotten all too soon - it was the case back of the last Silver Snoopy that caused all the delays getting those made, and I suspect it's the same thing here that the external components are the delay.
And in fairness, Ryan wasn’t talking about supply chains just that the aspects were difficult, which was the point of my post.
 
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that’s fair enough. But per my post above, production of a ceramic bezel should not be a blocker to this watch. The sending of it - well maybe. But many supply chains are back to normal now so let’s see.

Well, if you have direct knowledge of these things, that's great. I don't, so I'm not going to accuse Omega of doing something intentional here just because the rollout has been slow, because we have seen this exact same thing play out before with the last model (and that was only for 1972 watches). Back then people complained as well, but since the "Rolex effect" hadn't taken full swing back then, no one was quite as cynical about it as they are now.

And in fairness, Ryan wasn’t talking about supply chains just that the aspects were difficult, which was the point of my post.

Yes, I read both posts. Supply chains inevitably come into play on these things, because Omega themselves don't necessarily make all these parts. On the last one they had production issues that slowed everything down.

I suspect it’s omega playing the hard to get game. As soon as it gets easy and the market value goes down a bit, quite a lot of the demand subsides.I suspect omega know that and are acting accordingly.

By all means if you and others want to make that leap go ahead, but being in this business and seeing how much delay there has been over the last 18 months just on normal parts, I'm not going to judge Omega on this.
 
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Well, if you have direct knowledge of these things, that's great. I don't, so I'm not going to accuse Omega of doing something intentional here just because the rollout has been slow, because we have seen this exact same thing play out before with the last model (and that was only for 1972 watches). Back then people complained as well, but since the "Rolex effect" hadn't taken full swing back then, no one was quite as cynical about it as they are now.



Yes, I read both posts. Supply chains inevitably come into play on these things, because Omega themselves don't necessarily make all these parts. On the last one they had production issues that slowed everything down.



By all means if you and others want to make that leap go ahead, but being in this business and seeing how much delay there has been over the last 18 months just on normal parts, I'm not going to judge Omega on this.
Erm, i didn’t claim I did have direct knowledge. I’m not sure what post you read. I’ve seen you post completely opposite posts before so not sure why you are taking exception to mine, but anyway it’s just my opinion and I’m not going to question yours (although I’ll get a response as you like to be the last one)

thanks - everyone can have different opinions.
 
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Erm, i didn’t claim I did have direct knowledge. I’m not sure what post you read. I’ve seen you post completely opposite posts before so not sure why you are taking exception to mine, but anyway it’s just my opinion and I’m not going to question yours (although I’ll get a response as you like to be the last one)

thanks - everyone can have different opinions.
Anyway, how blue bezels can be an issue when they’ve just knocked a load of Tokyo seamasters out is a mystery?

a different factory? Why don’t you tell me?
 
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I’ve seen you post completely opposite posts before so not sure why you are taking exception to mine,.

Sorry, what are you saying I have posted before?
 
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Anyway, how blue bezels can be an issue when they’ve just knocked a load of Tokyo seamasters out is a mystery?

a different factory? Why don’t you tell me?

Seamaster is not a Speedmaster. Unless you know what the supply details are, who they come from, how many they had on hand before the pandemic, this is all just guessing.
 
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Seamaster is not a Speedmaster. Unless you know what the supply details are, who they come from, how many they had on hand before the pandemic, this is all just guessing.

well, most of this thread is just guessing, But the supply point could be true - it will be interesting to see how deliveries fare over the coming months.
 
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Continuing guessing, my opinion is that the slow Snoopy's delivery is completely deliberated from Omega.
50 anniversary of the award they are most proud for: It may be its more iconic, beautiful (specially with 3861 bracelet) and special piece in many years. They know it, and they'll use it to increase brand value in the bigger picture (not making great bussiness with this particular piece at all).
I thought this could happen back in 2020, I was fast because I didn't care about reselling prices as I loved how it looked. Luckily in Spain has been much easier to get, specially before Chrono24 flipper prices appeared.
 
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With the speed of delivery, Omega will keep the hype up until 2024 where the Apollo 11 55th comes. And the game could start rolling again… I don’t believe there are huge issues in supply chain or in factory, I just think it’s a smart strategy. And no, I don’t know anything, it’s just my guess 😉
 
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well, most of this thread is just guessing, .

Exactly.
 
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It wouldn’t have the same hype if it didn’t sell for 3 times it’s value either.

in all seriousness, many of those things you think make it hard to make were the same for the Apollo 11 and they knocked 7000 of them out pretty quickly.

I suspect it’s omega playing the hard to get game. As soon as it gets easy and the market value goes down a bit, quite a lot of the demand subsides.I suspect omega know that and are acting accordingly.

Yes, but those were all all knocked out before a global pandemic made a mess of supply chains.

History is forgotten all too soon - it was the case back of the last Silver Snoopy that caused all the delays getting those made, and I suspect it's the same thing here that the external components are the delay.

Actually a batch of steel 50th Apollo 11s is being delivered in our region (middle east) this month, so not all are delivered yet and they are either spoken for or going to customers who have a good purchasing history.
 
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Actually a batch of steel 50th Apollo 11s is being delivered in our region (middle east) this month, so not all are delivered yet and they are either spoken for or going to customers who have a good purchasing history.
How big is a 'batch'?
 
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Exactly.
50% guessing.
I have it in an Omega official email that the plan was to release them very slowly and they were envisioning waiting time of years back in September of last year.
This has been impacted by issues with production and Covid, for sure it's a believable hypothesis.
But overall this is planned, together with the "non limited" reference.
 
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How big is a 'batch'?

Not sure the qty, however thats the exact word "batch" I was told by the Omega OB representative. The "batch" however will be split to all the boutiques in the region which are more than 5 countries (at least 10 to 20 boutiques).
 
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I have it in an Omega official email that the plan was to release them very slowly and they were envisioning waiting time of years back in September of last year.
1. They disclosed company policies to the public?
2. Snoopy 3 was announced October 5th, how could it September?

Care to share the mail?
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50% guessing.
I have it in an Omega official email that the plan was to release them very slowly and they were envisioning waiting time of years back in September of last year.
This has been impacted by issues with production and Covid, for sure it's a believable hypothesis.
But overall this is planned, together with the "non limited" reference.

Can you please post this.
 
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Can you please post this.

Post a screenshot of the email from my Omega associate?
I don't think it would be a wise move 😀 I would like to keep a nice relation with them.

1. I got this information back September, because it is when I put the official 5K deposit to jump on the list
2. On that trail of emails I had multiple information about the reference, including that it was probably a SS piece, below 10K, with some sort of animation on the caseback, and most important that it was a "limited production", that they were expecting long waiting time given to the limited rate, and that they even envisioned even people dropping out from the list because the wait.

I'm pretty sure many of the other clients got similar information, this was not a secret, and it was shared from the very beginning.
 
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Post a screenshot of the email from my Omega associate?
I don't think it would be a wise move 😀 I would like to keep a nice relation with them.

1. I got this information back September, because it is when I put the official 5K deposit to jump on the list
2. On that trail of emails I had multiple information about the reference, including that it was probably a SS piece, below 10K, with some sort of animation on the caseback, and most important that it was a "limited production", that they were expecting long waiting time given to the limited rate, and that they even envisioned even people dropping out from the list because the wait.

I'm pretty sure many of the other clients got similar information, this was not a secret, and it was shared from the very beginning.

If it’s not a secret, then I would encourage you to share the email.
 
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Post a screenshot of the email from my Omega associate?
I don't think it would be a wise move 😀 I would like to keep a nice relation with them.

1. I got this information back September, because it is when I put the official 5K deposit to jump on the list
2. On that trail of emails I had multiple information about the reference, including that it was probably a SS piece, below 10K, with some sort of animation on the caseback, and most important that it was a "limited production", that they were expecting long waiting time given to the limited rate, and that they even envisioned even people dropping out from the list because the wait.

I'm pretty sure many of the other clients got similar information, this was not a secret, and it was shared from the very beginning.
I was told pretty much the same thing but verbally except for the animation caseback.
 
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If it’s not a secret, then I would encourage you to share the email.

I basically wrote down all the points of the email.
I checked and I have found the information about being limited production in the very first email I received, when they asked me if I was interested in putting a deposit to secure a piece.

I will not take a screen shot, as I believe it wouldn't be correct to the associate.
But I repeat, this information was shared with many clients back when the list were opened, in US.
I'm pretty sure that if we do a pool the vast majority will agree with this.