O. J. Simpson has died.

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I worked at the Ritz Carlton Kapalua in Maui in the early 1990's. I remember walking down by the pool and seeing OJ and Nicole sitting on the patio, Nicole had a big black eye behind her sunglasses. A sign of things to come I guess.
 
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The whole Simpson clan are losers, there was some hope that Simpson's brain could be examined for CTE damage suffered as a player, but the family gave a big, fat NO to that idea. They are all selfish bastards.
 
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Once again I’m not defending him it’s just amazing how fall a human can fall, do we all have it in us under certain circumstances?
Mr Walrus,

There are those that will not let you separate the two aspects of OJ.

He was the juice on the field and diabolical in his his later life.

anyway, OJ is gone and nobody gives a rats ass.
 
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Mr Walrus,

There are those that will not let you separate the two aspects of OJ.

He was the juice on the field and diabolical in his his later life.

anyway, OJ is gone and nobody gives a rats ass.
No it’s not so much that, I just find it so odd how people can piss away such gifts and legacies. If u see my above comment on his lawyers pledging not to give the Goldman family a dime perhaps it shall bring more clarity
 
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Mr Walrus,

There are those that will not let you separate the two aspects of OJ.

He was the juice on the field and diabolical in his his later life.

anyway, OJ is gone and nobody gives a rats ass.
Was he always diabolical and managed to keep it under wraps? I don’t know it’s very bizarre
 
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Was he always diabolical and managed to keep it under wraps? I don’t know it’s very bizarre
Not sure under wraps perse, it was a different time. No social media, no internet, and much more ability to control keeping private life private. Spousal rape wasn’t considered a crime until 1993 in the US, so if he smacked his wife around he was just a boor- not an abusive and dangerous person as we see through a more modern lens.
 
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No it’s not so much that, I just find it so odd how people can piss away such gifts and legacies. If u see my above comment on his lawyers pledging not to give the Goldman family a dime perhaps it shall bring more clarity
If OJ or OJ estate gave Goldman $$$$$
If I was them, I would take it and burn in OJ’s front yard
 
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Agreed that nobody really gives a rat's ass, so it's a bit odd to see his death showing up in OF.
 
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Once again I’m not defending him it’s just amazing how fall a human can fall, do we all have it in us under certain circumstances?
There are those that will not let you separate the two aspects of OJ

Interesting topic, regarding how we retrospectively assess someone’s life. I think inherently, we use some sort of amorphous yardstick to measure all the good things, against all the despicable acts (if any).

This isn’t a situation where a a guy was working on a cancer cure, and slapped his wife around (completely disgusting, but had some redeeming contributions to society). No, this is a guy that could run with a ball in his hand, and was a thieving, malicious, cold-blooded murderer with no remorse. My view is that the football part means very, very little at this point.
 
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Interesting topic, regarding how we retrospectively assess someone’s life. I think inherently, we use some sort of amorphous yardstick to measure all the good things, against all the despicable acts (if any).

This isn’t a situation where a a guy was working on a cancer cure, and slapped his wife around (completely disgusting, but had some redeeming contributions to society). No, this is a guy that could run with a ball in his hand, and was a thieving, malicious, cold-blooded murderer with no remorse. My view is that the football part means very, very little at this point.
I was on a yin Yang thing from the brown acid sorry
 
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Interesting topic, regarding how we retrospectively assess someone’s life. I think inherently, we use some sort of amorphous yardstick to measure all the good things, against all the despicable acts (if any).
Agreed. Many people still like Michael Jackson.
 
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Agreed. Many people still like Michael Jackson.
That’s the thing- can you separate the talent/contributions to the craft/sport/art from the person.
There are hosts of musicians who are total pieces of shit, but their contributions to music are amazing.
Phil Spector comes to mind.
 
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That’s the thing- can you separate the talent/contributions to the craft/sport/art from the person.
There are hosts of musicians who are total pieces of shit, but their contributions to music are amazing.
Phil Spector comes to mind.

Totally agree. And we each have our own measure of offensiveness which determines whether we continue to consume their contributions, or decline.

For instance: I think Bill Cosby was a brilliant comedian, and Mel Gibson, an extremely talented actor. I won’t listen, watch or read anything that either has produced.
 
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It’s tragic actually- I find myself referencing Bill Cosby stand-up bits on occasion and my wife raises an eyebrow- rightly so. Same goes for Woody Allen- but without the criminal conviction.
 
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It’s tragic actually- I find myself referencing Bill Cosby stand-up bits on occasion and my wife raises an eyebrow- rightly so. Same goes for Woody Allen- but without the criminal conviction.

Bill Cosby first made a big part of my childhood and then ruined it. In our family we regularly quoted Cosby. When we visited my grandparents, my Dad would play a Cosby record for us as we were going to sleep. He sure turned out to be a scumbag predator (Cosby not my Dad).

When we think society is moving in the wrong direction, we can appreciate that abuse of women and girls by celebrities is covered up and tolerated a lot less these days. We still have some work to do, but we are moving in the right direction.
 
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^^^^^
Family Guy. Irreverent, offensive, perpetuating stereotypes, and in incredibly poor taste . . . but often hilarious. Peter Griffin as a stroke victim is an all time classic.
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