O. J. Simpson has died.

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I wouldnt have posted that it if hadn't already been established that he was, at the very least, a questionable character.
 
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I wouldnt have posted that it if hadn't already been established that he was, at the very least, a questionable character.
I wasn't questioning your post. The cartoon portrayed him for what he was. I was just commenting on the show generally. It's never "correct" in any sense of the word, and isnt' intended to be, but it's often very funny.
 
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As someone that has played professional sport it’s often the dubious characteristics that create the freakish talent. Some of the biggest losers in playing age then later life were exceptionally talented in sports.

Used to have a friend that was a amazing cricket player that broke nearly every record many favourite Australian cricketers held as juniors but he was a beer drinking weed smoker that probably went to 5 days of high school. Never made it anywhere due to this but was still playing better cricket than any Australian player at 25 but no professional clubs would touch him.
Have seen this in rugby union as well.

As a sports psychologist once said many years ago…there is probably 10 people in the world that could beat any world champion but they 1) don’t know it because the are not doing the sport anymore 2) playing another sport 3) are your plumber who has never competed in a world championship 😜
 
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Top sports people are often self obsessed egocentric narcissistic arseholes, that’s what makes them so good at what they do
, it keeps then focused, I have first hand experience of this as my sister is one such elite sporting arsehole, and all of the fellas she had were always sporting somebodies and were pretty well all the same.
That is not to say all elite sportspeople are the same, some are well rounded individuals, just that a great many are not.
 
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To be a successful athlete, you have to have that self belief in your ability and that you will achieve your goals, or you won’t get anywhere. That doesn’t automatically mean that they will be an arsehole.

In my competitive days I shot head to head against some great archers, including Olympic gold medallists, world champions, etc. After the days shooting we often all went out in groups for dinner, mixing with your direct competitors from other countries. In the end we were all friends.

To give one example a group of us would drive to an event in New Jersey every year. One year one of the cars we drove down in was stolen, along with all the equipment for one of our shooters. We were all trying to shoot Olympic qualifying scores and every event counted. When the rest of the archers there heard this, they all got together and loaned him equipment so that he could compete against them.

I have found that the way people act is partly a product of the environment that their specific sport has, rather than how successful they are. Some sports are more about the “me” culture than others.
 
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I have found that the way people act is partly a product of the environment that their specific sport has, rather than how successful they are. Some sports are more about the “me” culture than others

This is undoubtedly true. Though as a physio and trainer to athletes for nearly 40 years, I have found that they are over-represented as a group, for being entitled, narcissistic, obnoxious, and mentally blunted.

I’m not sure it’s entirely their fault, though. At least here in the US, athletes are so revered that only very few can resist the seductive effect of all the accolades.

I was having a chat with one of my patients, who was in the Teach for America program, and is now teaching 5th grade in the inner city. We were joking about sports, and the pay of professional athletes, and about what kind of brilliant, creative, and resourceful teachers would come out of a competitive pool of applicants were they offering a contract of $20 million dollars over five years.
 
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This is undoubtedly true. Though as a physio and trainer to athletes for nearly 40 years, I have found that they are over-represented as a group, for being entitled, narcissistic, obnoxious, and mentally blunted.

Sure, but I suspect there are other groups where the same characteristics would be "over represented" as well - for example CEO's of large companies - tech companies in particular. It's part of the culture of that "sport"...

I often tell my tennis coach that tennis players are arseholes - partly to get a rise out of him, but compared to archery it's very true. Not so much club players like myself, as the competition factor is there but there are no stakes involved really. For example if I get beat by someone, as long as I have played well by my standards, that's what matters most to me.

But go up to the "open" category in any local tennis tournament, and it's gets very competitive very quickly, to the point of being very unpleasant. I've seen players nearly get in fist fights over line calls, or excessive celebrations on the other side of the net. It's so engrained in the culture that winning is everything, that for juniors there are no lets on serve. Why? Because if you hit an ace on your serve, your opponent is likely to call a let just so they don't lose the point. You see some of this bleed into the top levels on TV, usually the younger guys that are newer on tour, before they understand that when crowds and TV audiences can see your antics, it doesn't go over very well.
 
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I won’t be mourning his passing. He and his legal “dream team” made a mockery of the criminal justice system. I believe in our legal system and in the high standard of proof required to convict a criminal defendant because the sad truth is that we wrongly convict and incarcerate far too many criminal defendants in this country and the vast majority of them are poor and people of color (and I’m Caucasian in case you’re wondering). That being said, the forensic evidence was overwhelmingly against Simpson, but much of it was excluded due to the failure of the police and detectives to follow proper procedures. The jury bought into a bunch of nonsense in my opinion, but it worked for the defense. This is a case that went disastrously off the rails and justice was not served. The fact that the trial was televised made it all the worse and had the effect of turning what should have been a very serious trial involving the brutal murder of two people into a daytime soap opera. Certainly not a watershed moment in American legal history.

I don't blame the defense team for doing their utmost to get an acquittal. That's their job. I blame the police and detectives for not following procedures and blowing what should have been an excellent case. They can only win against a defendent who has nothing but a public defender advising them to take a plea deal?
 
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I don't blame the defense team for doing their utmost to get an acquittal. That's their job. I blame the police and detectives for not following procedures and blowing what should have been an excellent case. They can only win against a defendent who has nothing but a public defender advising them to take a plea deal?
Yep, I agree. The defense did what they were hired to do and law enforcement made it much easier for them and much more difficult for the prosecution. That being said, the result was anything but just in my view, but sadly not unexpected from a legal standpoint.
 
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I think in the case of most disasters like this (the prelude, horrific event and resulting outcome) there were many lessons learned. I would like to think something like this couldn’t happen now- but horrible people still do horrible things and get away with it.
 
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would like to think something like this couldn’t happen now- but horrible people still do horrible things and get away with it.
Very true. If this happened today, the killer would likely have been live-streaming to his buddies, and that would have got caught. (can't say if that would be OJ or not. He was found not guilty in a court of law so...)
 
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I'll never forget watching him play at the old stadium in Buffalo known as The Rockpile in the early 70's. We were siting in the endzone and he had the ball and was rushing toward us, and completely leapt over a defender. I don't recall if he scored, but he began making Hertz commercials after that, with him running through an airport terminal and jumping over people.