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DHKNOLA
·https://www.uhren-muser.de/en/img.h...ilter=&tmfilter=&mfilter=&txtfilter=#startlot
Nice one; curious to see where it lands.
Nice one; curious to see where it lands.
Nov. 15 2019 Dr Crott Auction 100; a386
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billving
·Nice. 4500 made?
great research on their end!
great research on their end!
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JanV
·Service minute, hour and sub hands. (One subdial hand way off). Service crown and service rotor, can’t say about polishing from those pictures. Interesting to see how much this one pulls, as in general it looks good and it has a very nice dial though.
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CaptainWinsor
·Service minute, hour and sub hands. (One subdial hand way off). Service crown and service rotor, can’t say about polishing from those pictures. Interesting to see how much this one pulls, as in general it looks good and it has a very nice dial though.
what’s the ‘tell’ on the service hands?
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JanV
·what’s the ‘tell’ on the service hands?
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DHKNOLA
·Thanks for the pics JanV; I noticed that the second sub register hand is way off and the hour/min/paddle seconds hands look BRIGHT white. I did not have the expertise to out right call them service hands, but they did not seem age appropriate.
Will be curious where it lands price wise...it is a fine dial.
Will be curious where it lands price wise...it is a fine dial.
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·D DHKNOLAThanks for the pics JanV; I noticed that the second sub register hand is way off and the hour/min/paddle seconds hands look BRIGHT white. I did not have the expertise to out right call them service hands, but they did not seem age appropriate.
Will be curious where it lands price wise...it is a fine dial.
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JanV
·And don’t forget to check this great site out also!
https://alphahands.com/vintage-watch-research/zenith-a386-el-primero/
https://alphahands.com/vintage-watch-research/zenith-a386-el-primero/
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MarkTr
·And don’t forget to check this great site out also!
https://alphahands.com/vintage-watch-research/zenith-a386-el-primero/
Has anyone noticed on the alphahands price trend spreadsheet that many of the MK3s have pointy subdial hands?
I keep thinking -that like the small circle crown- that the factory "may" have installed pointy "service" hands onto new MK3 builds.
I find it hard to believe that so many of the MK3's on the alphahands list required replacement service hands during their lifetime.
I have owned my MK3 for over 35 years and it came with the pointy hands. We have all seen some pretty magnificent examples of MK3s on this forum with pointy subdial hands.
Are all the experts positive that these "service" pointy hands never came on MK3s new?
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subregister
·Indeed the later Mk3 do start to show more pointed hands. If your Mk3 came with the pointed hands originally, I believe the only possibility would be that it is in the 231+ serial range. Is that correct?
A guess given the data on my site is that Zenith ran out of the thick hands and swapped over to the service hands at the very end of their production of the A386. Or, perhaps they decided to cut over to pointed hands intentionally at the very end of the A386 production run, though to me seems less likely.
http://alphahands.com/faq/zenith-a386-sub-register-hands/
A guess given the data on my site is that Zenith ran out of the thick hands and swapped over to the service hands at the very end of their production of the A386. Or, perhaps they decided to cut over to pointed hands intentionally at the very end of the A386 production run, though to me seems less likely.
http://alphahands.com/faq/zenith-a386-sub-register-hands/
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MarkTr
·Indeed the later Mk3 do start to show more pointed hands. If your Mk3 came with the pointed hands originally, I believe the only possibility would be that it is in the 231+ serial range. Is that correct?
A guess given the data on my site is that Zenith ran out of the thick hands and swapped over to the service hands at the very end of their production of the A386. Or, perhaps they decided to cut over to pointed hands intentionally at the very end of the A386 production run, though to me seems less likely.
http://alphahands.com/faq/zenith-a386-sub-register-hands/
Thank you for your thoughts- I was hoping that you would comment.
My A386 is indeed 231Exxx.
When I was first looking at your spreadsheet --what caught my eye was the number of late MK3's with the pointy hands. Not sure how we will ever know- but it does leave the door open that late series 386's may be correct (well-not wrong) when shown with pointy sub-register hands.
Even though I found two thick hands for my A386 I am going to have the watchmaker reinstall the pointy sub-register hands it came with.
Thank you again for posting.
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subregister
·You're welcome @MarkTr.
Hopefully one day we will see some marketing/advertising material from that late period to show the intention of the design (though of course, if they ran out of thick hands at the end of the run...who knows!).
And I would say...hang on to those hands 👍
Hopefully one day we will see some marketing/advertising material from that late period to show the intention of the design (though of course, if they ran out of thick hands at the end of the run...who knows!).
And I would say...hang on to those hands 👍
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·And don’t forget to check this great site out also!
https://alphahands.com/vintage-watch-research/zenith-a386-el-primero/
