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Completely new here. Seems like people don't like the ultramans. How come? This one is the vintage one too and not the 2018 one. I can understand if people are sick of the new one being shown everywhere.

Hilarious username. It's not that we don't like the almost-entirely-unremarkable-otherwise-Speedmaster-with-an-orange-seconds-hand, it's the delusional thinking of people who believe their watch is "extremely important" because it has an orange seconds hand and a barely different dial. The watch is rare and has become a status symbol. However, one can understand the economics of rarity without falling into an ideological trap. As one member pointed out: If these watches were selling for $5, no one would care about the Ultraman unless you just like the watch.
 
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heavenscloud heavenscloud
Hilarious username. It's not that we don't like the almost-entirely-unremarkable-otherwise-Speedmaster-with-an-orange-seconds-hand, it's the delusional thinking of people who believe their watch is "extremely important" because it has an orange seconds hand and a barely different dial. The watch is rare and has become a status symbol. However, one can understand the economics of rarity without falling into an ideological trap. As one member pointed out: If these watches were selling for $5, no one would care about the Ultraman unless you just like the watch.

... Sometimes I am missing the
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button in these threads ..
 
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heavenscloud heavenscloud
Hilarious username. It's not that we don't like the almost-entirely-unremarkable-otherwise-Speedmaster-with-an-orange-seconds-hand, it's the delusional thinking of people who believe their watch is "extremely important" because it has an orange seconds hand and a barely different dial. The watch is rare and has become a status symbol. However, one can understand the economics of rarity without falling into an ideological trap. As one member pointed out: If these watches were selling for $5, no one would care about the Ultraman unless you just like the watch.
To be fair there are many instances in the vintage watch world where minutiae vastly change the value of the piece...red subs, Tiffany signed dials, DON bezels...the list goes on and on
 
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To be fair there are many instances in the vintage watch world where minutiae vastly change the value of the piece...red subs, Tiffany signed dials, DON bezels...the list goes on and on

Agreed. That is the economics of rarity. We all agree that a correct Ultraman should be worth more than a typical Speedmaster because it's rarer.

However, a lot of these "special" references become status symbols and the watch becomes a projection of the owner's self-importance, which is something altogether different and quite disgusting to observe. Another example: if a Paul Newman Daytona wasn't associated with Paul Newman and the dial said "Cyma" instead of "Rolex," no one would care about that watch and you could buy a nice example for $5K. You're paying a premium for the idea of Paul Newman and the idea of Rolex.
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Wow, a lot of attention to this watch!

I am the seller of the watch discussed in this thread, and can answer a lot of the questions. The watch has belonged to a deceased relative of mine, who I am fairly sure has owned it since new. At an early point he must have decided he didn't like the orange hand, and had it switched to a white one. Fortunately (but not surprisingly, since this was a man who didn't throw away anything), he saved the orange hand in a little box. When I got the watch and found the orange hand I soon found out about the "Ultraman" edition. I got an extract from the archives confirming that it is actually an Ultraman and had the orange hand put back. The paint was already flaked before it was put back. However, I misread one figure in the serial number, which is why the number was wrong at first at the auction page. Bukowskis got the extract with the right number, where it says it was sold to Sweden rather than Switzerland, which makes a lot more sense, since I and my relative are Swedish.

Btw, the picture in my avatar is the watch with the white hand on, and the picture I sent to Omega when ordering the extract, so they could not know from the picture that the watch had an orange hand. Someone here insinuated that that is how and why they put that information in the extract.
 
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Cool story! Thanks for sharing. 😀

I have a 145.012-67 with a too bright sweep second and a matching serial # as well. Still waiting for the extract...
 
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@Oblivious Great to have you here with the story of the watch - can you shed some light on the number scratched in?
 
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Oblivious Oblivious
Wow, a lot of attention to this watch!

I am the seller of the watch discussed in this thread, and can answer a lot of the questions. The watch has belonged to a deceased relative of mine, who I am fairly sure has owned it since new. At an early point he must have decided he didn't like the orange hand, and had it switched to a white one. Fortunately (but not surprisingly, since this was a man who didn't throw away anything), he saved the orange hand in a little box. When I got the watch and found the orange hand I soon found out about the "Ultraman" edition. I got an extract from the archives confirming that it is actually an Ultraman and had the orange hand put back. The paint was already flaked before it was put back. However, I misread one figure in the serial number, which is why the number was wrong at first at the auction page. Bukowskis got the extract with the right number, where it says it was sold to Sweden rather than Switzerland, which makes a lot more sense, since I and my relative are Swedish.

Btw, the picture in my avatar is the watch with the white hand on, and the picture I sent to Omega when ordering the extract, so they could not know from the picture that the watch had an orange hand. Someone here insinuated that that is how and why they put that information in the extract.
Why did you send a picture at all? That is not part of the normal extract process. Curiouser and curiouser...
 
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Why did you send a picture at all? That is not part of the normal extract process. Curiouser and curiouser...

Yes. I never sent a picture when ordering an extract. I did not even have the opportunity to do this, as far as I remember.
 
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Why did you send a picture at all? That is not part of the normal extract process. Curiouser and curiouser...
Well, they asked for a picture, so I sent them one.
 
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@Oblivious Great to have you here with the story of the watch - can you shed some light on the number scratched in?
Sorry, I have no idea what the number is about.
 
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Oblivious Oblivious
Well, they asked for a picture, so I sent them one.

I have never been asked for a picture when ordering an extract.

Seems a bit unusual.
 
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Winston 1984 Winston 1984
He said he had the white hand mounted.

Aaaah right 😀 So, for posterity, a picture of the white hand mounted was sent, and an extract stating 'orange hand' was returned (a crucial point for this whole thread).
 
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Oblivious Oblivious
Sorry, I have no idea what the number is about.

Well, maybe this tiny little thing might be more interesting than the orange sweep second?
 
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Looks a bit like a phone number, which would also make sense (why else would you scratch a number on your watch?). Mystery remains...
 
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drhex drhex
Looks a bit like a phone number, which would also make sense (why else would you scratch a number on your watch?). Mystery remains...

I was thinking of the fact that NASA used to engrave Speedies.

Maybe this is a one of a kind 'Space Ultraman'? 😀
 
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It is a reasonable fine engraving, something a watchmaker would do free hand. Don't think I could achieve it. @Oblivious What was the occupation of the owner if you don't mind telling?
 
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Aaaah right 😀 So, for posterity, a picture of the white hand mounted was sent, and an extract stating 'orange hand' was returned (a crucial point for this whole thread).
Yes.
 
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