New Tudor Marine National partnership

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Not bad.


If this is it ; ) - I called it ; )

Though I would be very suspect - not a good photo and that engraving on the back is not exactly deep. Case is, uhhh, unusual.
 
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I REALLY like no date and minimal text. But why on earth would it only be certified to 200M? The case integrated spring bars are… interesting.

would I buy this model? Definitely.
 
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So apparently this showed up too. Same fixed bars and countdown bezel as the 200m Marine Nationale
 
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200m depth rating and still thick as a brick? Talk about dropping the ball...

Interesting that the two photos show different dial text. But anyway, probably not going to pick this up. The weird case shape, lack of bracelet compatibility, thickness, and missing hashes around the X9/X1 digits are all individually dealbreakers for me.
 
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ID Guy posted a pretty thorough vid today on the MN Pelagos based on the Instagram posts. Checks a lot of the boxes.

 
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Omega got at least one right. 😉



As for Tudor, the modern versions leave me cold, including the recent offerings, with the exception of certain Black Bay references. Vintage is a different story.

Amazing Tudor Snowflake!!!
 
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ID Guy posted a pretty thorough vid today on the MN Pelagos based on the Instagram posts. Checks a lot of the boxes.

Wouldn’t it be nice! I’m sure they’ll figure out a way to fυck it up- perhaps make it 17mm thick.🤦
I had such high hopes for the heritage chrono (Montecarlo) and they juuuust missed it in the proportions.
 
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I like it. Good size (42mm by 12.75 thick; this will wear very nicely though I agree with those who say it should have been 40mm), bi-directional bezel which is necessary for the countdown timer to be useful, titanium, no-date. I would personally wear something like this on a NATO strap anyway so the fixed lugs aren't a dealbreaker, but I do think it's a strange decision to force that upon people.

Not running to the AD today, but I could see this eventually finding its way to my wrist.
 
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Was really looking forward to this but its a miss for me. I have a smaller wrist, and had an original Pelagos, which just wore too big. At 40mm I'd buy this in a heartbeat.
 
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Even if the thickness has been removed to 12.75mm, the watch will still probably wear just as tall due to the straps going under the caseback. Still gonna pass on this one. Lack of a bracelet option is a deal-killer in my book.
 
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200m depth rating and still thick as a brick? Talk about dropping the ball...

Interesting that the two photos show different dial text. But anyway, probably not going to pick this up. The weird case shape, lack of bracelet compatibility, thickness, and missing hashes around the X9/X1 digits are all individually dealbreakers for me.
It's 1.5 mm thinner than the Pelagos 500m on a 42mm case. It will wear like a charm.
 
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bi-directional bezel which is necessary for the countdown timer to be useful,

Apologies, but can you hand-hold me on this one?

First, why it has a count down bezel (as opposed to a minutes elapsed bezel). I take it from the product description that it’s intended as a navigational function, but not entirely sure I follow the exact utility/import: “60-minute retrograde graduation for navigation by successive stages.”

Second, why the bi-directional is necessary? I’m not quite seeing through the fog to this necessity (not helped by not yet understanding my first question).

Admittedly, I first took this to be a dive watch, but appears instead to be fashioned as a “tool” for general maritime/navigational purposes. (The bi-directional bezel seemingly even disqualifying it from OSO dive qualification.)

Appreciate the hand-holding!
 
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It's 1.5 mm thinner than the Pelagos 500m on a 42mm case. It will wear like a charm.

I agree with @Caliber561 - with fixed bars necessitating a nato-like setup, the additional strap height probably means they had to shave off 1.5mm in order for it to wear only as thick as a Pelagius 500m (that isn’t itself on nato)
 
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I agree with @Caliber561 - with fixed bars necessitating a nato-like setup, the additional strap height probably means they had to shave off 1.5mm in order for it to wear only as thick as a Pelagius 500m (that isn’t itself on nato)
Well, since the deep spec are so much different, they don't need a thick case as much as the 500m.
The change in thickness will affect the wear even with the velcro since the case is visually thinner ( and from the photograph the difference was already visible even before knowing the actual dimension)
 
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Apologies, but can you hand-hold me on this one?

First, why it has a count down bezel (as opposed to a minutes elapsed bezel). I take it from the product description that it’s intended as a navigational function, but not entirely sure I follow the exact utility/import: “60-minute retrograde graduation for navigation by successive stages.”

Second, why the bi-directional is necessary? I’m not quite seeing through the fog to this necessity (not helped by not yet understanding my first question).

Admittedly, I first took this to be a dive watch, but appears instead to be fashioned as a “tool” for general maritime/navigational purposes. (The bi-directional bezel seemingly even disqualifying it from OSO dive qualification.)

Appreciate the hand-holding!
They have a pretty handy explanation on the Tudor website or instagram. Not being a diver it means little to me but seems to be a tandem diving timing thing.
 
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Apologies, but can you hand-hold me on this one?

First, why it has a count down bezel (as opposed to a minutes elapsed bezel). I take it from the product description that it’s intended as a navigational function, but not entirely sure I follow the exact utility/import: “60-minute retrograde graduation for navigation by successive stages.”

Second, why the bi-directional is necessary? I’m not quite seeing through the fog to this necessity (not helped by not yet understanding my first question).

Admittedly, I first took this to be a dive watch, but appears instead to be fashioned as a “tool” for general maritime/navigational purposes. (The bi-directional bezel seemingly even disqualifying it from OSO dive qualification.)

Appreciate the hand-holding!

From Fratello, (the numbers descend clockwise as opposed to ascending). This design is used for underwater navigation purposes. Allowing quick countdowns which can easily be reset.
 
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Apologies, but can you hand-hold me on this one?

First, why it has a count down bezel (as opposed to a minutes elapsed bezel). I take it from the product description that it’s intended as a navigational function, but not entirely sure I follow the exact utility/import: “60-minute retrograde graduation for navigation by successive stages.”

Second, why the bi-directional is necessary? I’m not quite seeing through the fog to this necessity (not helped by not yet understanding my first question).

Admittedly, I first took this to be a dive watch, but appears instead to be fashioned as a “tool” for general maritime/navigational purposes. (The bi-directional bezel seemingly even disqualifying it from OSO dive qualification.)

Appreciate the hand-holding!

The countdown format makes it a bit easier to time exact minutes underwater, since you know when to make a change when the minutes hand is on the bezel lume pip - rather than trying to count how many hashmarks have passed since you set the lume pip to the minute hand, as with a regular dive bezel.

This can be more of a pain to set for a unidirectional bezel though, as the idea is that you'll be using it constantly underwater (rather than just setting your regular dive bezel once, then making sure to surface before an hour has passed). So, you can just quickly set it to wherever you need to.
 
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The countdown format makes it a bit easier to time exact minutes underwater, since you know when to make a change when the minutes hand is on the bezel lume pip - rather than trying to count how many hashmarks have passed since you set the lume pip to the minute hand, as with a regular dive bezel.

This can be more of a pain to set for a unidirectional bezel though, as the idea is that you'll be using it constantly underwater (rather than just setting your regular dive bezel once, then making sure to surface before an hour has passed). So, you can just quickly set it to wherever you need to.


This aligns with my assumptions, and reason! Appreciate the confirmation!

I rather like this feature and history to the function, though I assume useless to almost anyone - perhaps even more than a He escape valve - in modern times. And in theory, a little sketchy for modern/casual divers to use (given that, in theory, the uni-directional bezel is intended to protect against accidental movements toward too much time underwater).

Pretty cool!